Bicycle Board Members,
See attached photo. I got 2 of these signs in the mail today. What should I do with them? I'd like to get a picture of all of us putting one up somewhere. Any ideas where and when? I'm sure we'll have to ask the Public Works Dept. for permission and help.
Frank
BB Members,
Similar, but not exact to what Chip stated, I think the best locations to place our new signs are near the Coliseum on Mon Blvd and near the Westover Bridge on University Ave. One other option may be at the 705 and Van Voorhis intersection. Derek
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Bicycle Board Members,
See attached photo. I got 2 of these signs in the mail today. What should I do with them? I'd like to get a picture of all of us putting one up somewhere. Any ideas where and when? I'm sure we'll have to ask the Public Works Dept. for permission and help.
Frank
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
I would think there's 3 main entrys. From Star City, Mileground, and Don Knotts.
Don Knotts has RT in view, and also has STR signage. 705 from Mileground has signage, does Mileground? Going to Coll from Star City would be a top pick for me, but would happen to be on one of the worst places to ride for most; there is a WVU Cycling Adopt a Highway sign at the Corner in front of Sheetz in Granville.
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Derek Springston Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:33 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
BB Members,
Similar, but not exact to what Chip stated, I think the best locations to place our new signs are near the Coliseum on Mon Blvd and near the Westover Bridge on University Ave. One other option may be at the 705 and Van Voorhis intersection. Derek
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Bicycle Board Members,
See attached photo. I got 2 of these signs in the mail today. What should I do with them? I'd like to get a picture of all of us putting one up somewhere. Any ideas where and when? I'm sure we'll have to ask the Public Works Dept. for permission and help.
Frank
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Building upon the state bike route connectivity idea, maybe the signs should go on the routes that would connect cyclists from around the state (and out of state) - per Frank's recent email: "We all reached consensus for Tuesday to support improvements on those corridors with Rts. 100 and 857 being the highest priorities" Thus, my recommendation would be to sign those two routes as they may be the most trafficked, or whichever routes the state DOH agrees to designate as "bike routes" (or whatever other designation they choose). That said, I'm not sure the best place that would welcome people to Morgantown on rte 100 (crossing Westover bridge?) or 857 (705 from Mileground as recommended?). Just my 2 cents. Such great momentum for cycling - thanks to all for the hard work! Christiaan
________________________________ From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Derek Springston' dspringston@gmail.com; 'Frank Gmeindl' fgmeindl@gmail.com Cc: 'Bike Board - Morgantown' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
I would think there’s 3 main entrys. From Star City, Mileground, and Don Knotts. Don Knotts has RT in view, and also has STR signage. 705 from Mileground has signage, does Mileground? Going to Coll from Star City would be a top pick for me, but would happen to be on one of the worst places to ride for most; there is a WVU Cycling Adopt a Highway sign at the Corner in front of Sheetz in Granville. From:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Derek Springston Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:33 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs BB Members, Similar, but not exact to what Chip stated, I think the best locations to place our new signs are near the Coliseum on Mon Blvd and near the Westover Bridge on University Ave. One other option may be at the 705 and Van Voorhis intersection. Derek On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote: Bicycle Board Members,
See attached photo. I got 2 of these signs in the mail today. What should I do with them? I'd like to get a picture of all of us putting one up somewhere. Any ideas where and when? I'm sure we'll have to ask the Public Works Dept. for permission and help.
Frank
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All,
If the location you decide is a State route you will need to work with Fouad Shoukry, District 4 Traffic Engineer to get approval. If it is a City street then I will be happy to work with you.
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
Assistant City Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown , WV 26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
www.morgantown.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christiaan Abildso" cabildso@yahoo.com To: "Ryan Post" rpostwvu@gmail.com, "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com, "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl@gmail.com Cc: "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
Building upon the state bike route connectivity idea, maybe the signs should go on the routes that would connect cyclists from around the state (and out of state) - per Frank's recent email: "We all reached consensus for Tuesday to support improvements on those corridors with Rts. 100 and 857 being the highest priorities" Thus, my recommendation would be to sign those two routes as they may be the most trafficked, or whichever routes the state DOH agrees to designate as "bike routes" (or whatever other designation they choose). That said, I'm not sure the best place that would welcome people to Morgantown on rte 100 (crossing Westover bridge?) or 857 (705 from Mileground as recommended?). Just my 2 cents. Such great momentum for cycling - thanks to all for the hard work! Christiaan
From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Derek Springston' dspringston@gmail.com; 'Frank Gmeindl' fgmeindl@gmail.com Cc: 'Bike Board - Morgantown' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
I would think there’s 3 main entrys. From Star City, Mileground, and Don Knotts. Don Knotts has RT in view, and also has STR signage. 705 from Mileground has signage, does Mileground? Going to Coll from Star City would be a top pick for me, but would happen to be on one of the worst places to ride for most; there is a WVU Cycling Adopt a Highway sign at the Corner in front of Sheetz in Granville.
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Derek Springston Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:33 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs BB Members, Similar, but not exact to what Chip stated, I think the best locations to place our new signs are near the Coliseum on Mon Blvd and near the Westover Bridge on University Ave. One other option may be at the 705 and Van Voorhis intersection. Derek
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Frank Gmeindl < fgmeindl@gmail.com > wrote: Bicycle Board Members,
See attached photo. I got 2 of these signs in the mail today. What should I do with them? I'd like to get a picture of all of us putting one up somewhere. Any ideas where and when? I'm sure we'll have to ask the Public Works Dept. for permission and help.
Frank
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Bicycle Board Members,
Looks like we're probably going to end up wanting a sign on each major corridor entering Morgantown: routes: 19, 7, 119, 857 and 705. (Did I miss any?)
I think we need to decide the exact detailed locations that we would recommend erecting these signs. PLEASE RESPOND WITH ONE OR MORE LOCATIONS FOR WHICH YOU WOULD DEFINE EXACT LOCATIONS, e.g. latitude and longitude or other similar info that you could give to someone and they could put the sign exactly where you think it should go. (To say, put it on the Mileground, is insufficient.) I will collect your recommendations and prepare them for presentation to the Traffic Commission.
Since we only received 2 signs, we'll need to get more. I'm thinking we could use some of the leftover education grant money, ~$950 to purchase them. Attached is the order form. By copy of this message, I'M ASKING DAMIEN IF HE CAN FIND OUT HOW MUCH SIGNS WOULD COST TO MAKE IF WE PURCHASED THE ART ($200) AND RECOMMEND MAKE OR BUY. (They're 18" x 24", approximately 3/32" thick aluminum and the letters are retroreflective.)
Since all of the corridors are State routes, we will have to work with Fouad Shoukry at WVDOH at least to get permission to erect them. I don't know how they would actually get erected. PLEASE RESPOND IF YOU WILL WORK WITH FOUAD TO GET THE SIGNS ERECTED.
Frank
On May 13, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Damien Davis wrote:
All,
If the location you decide is a State route you will need to work with Fouad Shoukry, District 4 Traffic Engineer to get approval. If it is a City street then I will be happy to work with you.
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
Assistant City Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown , WV 26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
www.morgantown.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christiaan Abildso" cabildso@yahoo.com To: "Ryan Post" rpostwvu@gmail.com, "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com, "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl@gmail.com Cc: "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
Building upon the state bike route connectivity idea, maybe the signs should go on the routes that would connect cyclists from around the state (and out of state) - per Frank's recent email: "We all reached consensus for Tuesday to support improvements on those corridors with Rts. 100 and 857 being the highest priorities"
Thus, my recommendation would be to sign those two routes as they may be the most trafficked, or whichever routes the state DOH agrees to designate as "bike routes" (or whatever other designation they choose). That said, I'm not sure the best place that would welcome people to Morgantown on rte 100 (crossing Westover bridge?) or 857 (705 from Mileground as recommended?). Just my 2 cents. Such great momentum for cycling - thanks to all for the hard work! Christiaan
From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Derek Springston' dspringston@gmail.com; 'Frank Gmeindl' fgmeindl@gmail.com Cc: 'Bike Board - Morgantown' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
I would think there’s 3 main entrys. From Star City, Mileground, and Don Knotts.
Don Knotts has RT in view, and also has STR signage. 705 from Mileground has signage, does Mileground? Going to Coll from Star City would be a top pick for me, but would happen to be on one of the worst places to ride for most; there is a WVU Cycling Adopt a Highway sign at the Corner in front of Sheetz in Granville.
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Derek Springston Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:33 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
BB Members, Similar, but not exact to what Chip stated, I think the best locations to place our new signs are near the Coliseum on Mon Blvd and near the Westover Bridge on University Ave. One other option may be at the 705 and Van Voorhis intersection. Derek
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Frank Gmeindl < fgmeindl@gmail.com > wrote: Bicycle Board Members,
See attached photo. I got 2 of these signs in the mail today. What should I do with them? I'd like to get a picture of all of us putting one up somewhere. Any ideas where and when? I'm sure we'll have to ask the Public Works Dept. for permission and help.
Frank
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I can work with Fouad to get the signs erected and can also get locations for 857 and 705. Do we want the 705 sign coming off the Mileground or coming from the Hospital the other way? Also, are we talking about Pt. Marion Road (119) or Grafton Road (119) or both?
Chet
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Bicycle Board Members,
Looks like we're probably going to end up wanting a sign on each major corridor entering Morgantown: routes: 19, 7, 119, 857 and 705. (Did I miss any?)
I think we need to decide the exact detailed locations that we would recommend erecting these signs. PLEASE RESPOND WITH ONE OR MORE LOCATIONS FOR WHICH YOU WOULD DEFINE EXACT LOCATIONS, e.g. latitude and longitude or other similar info that you could give to someone and they could put the sign exactly where you think it should go. (To say, put it on the Mileground, is insufficient.) I will collect your recommendations and prepare them for presentation to the Traffic Commission.
Since we only received 2 signs, we'll need to get more. I'm thinking we could use some of the leftover education grant money, ~$950 to purchase them. Attached is the order form. By copy of this message, I'M ASKING DAMIEN IF HE CAN FIND OUT HOW MUCH SIGNS WOULD COST TO MAKE IF WE PURCHASED THE ART ($200) AND RECOMMEND MAKE OR BUY. (They're 18" x 24", approximately 3/32" thick aluminum and the letters are retroreflective.)
Since all of the corridors are State routes, we will have to work with Fouad Shoukry at WVDOH at least to get permission to erect them. I don't know how they would actually get erected. PLEASE RESPOND IF YOU WILL WORK WITH FOUAD TO GET THE SIGNS ERECTED.
Frank
On May 13, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Damien Davis wrote:
All,
If the location you decide is a State route you will need to work with
Fouad Shoukry, District 4 Traffic Engineer to get approval. If it is a City street then I will be happy to work with you.
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
Assistant City Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown , WV 26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
www.morgantown.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christiaan Abildso" cabildso@yahoo.com To: "Ryan Post" rpostwvu@gmail.com, "Derek Springston" <
dspringston@gmail.com>, "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl@gmail.com
Cc: "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
Building upon the state bike route connectivity idea, maybe the signs
should go on the routes that would connect cyclists from around the state (and out of state) - per Frank's recent email: "We all reached consensus for Tuesday to support improvements on those corridors with Rts. 100 and 857 being the highest priorities"
Thus, my recommendation would be to sign those two routes as they may be
the most trafficked, or whichever routes the state DOH agrees to designate as "bike routes" (or whatever other designation they choose). That said, I'm not sure the best place that would welcome people to Morgantown on rte 100 (crossing Westover bridge?) or 857 (705 from Mileground as recommended?).
Just my 2 cents. Such great momentum for cycling - thanks to all for the
hard work!
Christiaan
From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Derek Springston' dspringston@gmail.com; 'Frank Gmeindl' <
fgmeindl@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Bike Board - Morgantown' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
I would think there’s 3 main entrys. From Star City, Mileground, and Don
Knotts.
Don Knotts has RT in view, and also has STR signage. 705 from
Mileground has signage, does Mileground? Going to Coll from Star City would be a top pick for me, but would happen to be on one of the worst places to ride for most; there is a WVU Cycling Adopt a Highway sign at the Corner in front of Sheetz in Granville.
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org]
On Behalf Of Derek Springston
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:33 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
BB Members, Similar, but not exact to what Chip stated, I think the best locations
to place our new signs are near the Coliseum on Mon Blvd and near the Westover Bridge on University Ave. One other option may be at the 705 and Van Voorhis intersection.
Derek
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Frank Gmeindl < fgmeindl@gmail.com >
wrote:
Bicycle Board Members,
See attached photo. I got 2 of these signs in the mail today. What
should I do with them? I'd like to get a picture of all of us putting one up somewhere. Any ideas where and when? I'm sure we'll have to ask the Public Works Dept. for permission and help.
Frank
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future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells
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Frank and BB, I recommend these locations showing lat/longs from Google Maps:
- Mon Blvd near Coliseum - 39° 38' 56.18"N, 79° 58' 46.09"W - University Ave (Rt. 119) - 39° 37' 40.80"N, 79° 57' 35.21"W - Westover Bridge (Rt. 19) - 39° 37' 47.21"N, 79° 57' 31.17"W - Earl L Core Road in Sabraton (Route 7) - 39° 36' 56.00"N, 79° 55' 16.54"W - Cheat Road (Rt. 119) - 39° 38' 48.85"N, 79° 53' 48.38"W - Rt 705 - 39° 39' 09.40"N, 79° 56' 11.80"W
One thing that I need clarified is whether we should/can place the signs outside of city limits. Depending on answer to that, we may need to clarify some of my locations.
Hope this helps.
~Derek
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Bicycle Board Members,
Looks like we're probably going to end up wanting a sign on each major corridor entering Morgantown: routes: 19, 7, 119, 857 and 705. (Did I miss any?)
I think we need to decide the exact detailed locations that we would recommend erecting these signs. PLEASE RESPOND WITH ONE OR MORE LOCATIONS FOR WHICH YOU WOULD DEFINE EXACT LOCATIONS, e.g. latitude and longitude or other similar info that you could give to someone and they could put the sign exactly where you think it should go. (To say, put it on the Mileground, is insufficient.) I will collect your recommendations and prepare them for presentation to the Traffic Commission.
Since we only received 2 signs, we'll need to get more. I'm thinking we could use some of the leftover education grant money, ~$950 to purchase them. Attached is the order form. By copy of this message, I'M ASKING DAMIEN IF HE CAN FIND OUT HOW MUCH SIGNS WOULD COST TO MAKE IF WE PURCHASED THE ART ($200) AND RECOMMEND MAKE OR BUY. (They're 18" x 24", approximately 3/32" thick aluminum and the letters are retroreflective.)
Since all of the corridors are State routes, we will have to work with Fouad Shoukry at WVDOH at least to get permission to erect them. I don't know how they would actually get erected. PLEASE RESPOND IF YOU WILL WORK WITH FOUAD TO GET THE SIGNS ERECTED.
Frank
On May 13, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Damien Davis wrote:
All,
If the location you decide is a State route you will need to work with
Fouad Shoukry, District 4 Traffic Engineer to get approval. If it is a City street then I will be happy to work with you.
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
Assistant City Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown , WV 26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
www.morgantown.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christiaan Abildso" cabildso@yahoo.com To: "Ryan Post" rpostwvu@gmail.com, "Derek Springston" <
dspringston@gmail.com>, "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl@gmail.com
Cc: "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
Building upon the state bike route connectivity idea, maybe the signs
should go on the routes that would connect cyclists from around the state (and out of state) - per Frank's recent email: "We all reached consensus for Tuesday to support improvements on those corridors with Rts. 100 and 857 being the highest priorities"
Thus, my recommendation would be to sign those two routes as they may be
the most trafficked, or whichever routes the state DOH agrees to designate as "bike routes" (or whatever other designation they choose). That said, I'm not sure the best place that would welcome people to Morgantown on rte 100 (crossing Westover bridge?) or 857 (705 from Mileground as recommended?).
Just my 2 cents. Such great momentum for cycling - thanks to all for the
hard work!
Christiaan
From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Derek Springston' dspringston@gmail.com; 'Frank Gmeindl' <
fgmeindl@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Bike Board - Morgantown' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
I would think there’s 3 main entrys. From Star City, Mileground, and Don
Knotts.
Don Knotts has RT in view, and also has STR signage. 705 from
Mileground has signage, does Mileground? Going to Coll from Star City would be a top pick for me, but would happen to be on one of the worst places to ride for most; there is a WVU Cycling Adopt a Highway sign at the Corner in front of Sheetz in Granville.
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org]
On Behalf Of Derek Springston
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:33 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
BB Members, Similar, but not exact to what Chip stated, I think the best locations
to place our new signs are near the Coliseum on Mon Blvd and near the Westover Bridge on University Ave. One other option may be at the 705 and Van Voorhis intersection.
Derek
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Frank Gmeindl < fgmeindl@gmail.com >
wrote:
Bicycle Board Members,
See attached photo. I got 2 of these signs in the mail today. What
should I do with them? I'd like to get a picture of all of us putting one up somewhere. Any ideas where and when? I'm sure we'll have to ask the Public Works Dept. for permission and help.
Frank
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Nailed it! If not limited in # of signs, I think thes 6 really cover the major incoming bike (and automobile) routes. Shows support for bikes and a notice for autos to be aware of 2 wheelers. All, might these also be considered for a simultaneous share the road or bikes may use entire lane sign - per bicycle plan. One post, 2 signs...or does that detract? Should be perfect weather for bike to work Friday! Christiaan
________________________________ From: Derek Springston dspringston@gmail.com To: Bike Board - Morgantown bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
Frank and BB, I recommend these locations showing lat/longs from Google Maps:
* Mon Blvd near Coliseum - 39° 38' 56.18"N, 79° 58' 46.09"W * University Ave (Rt. 119) - 39° 37' 40.80"N, 79° 57' 35.21"W * Westover Bridge (Rt. 19) - 39° 37' 47.21"N, 79° 57' 31.17"W * Earl L Core Road in Sabraton (Route 7) - 39° 36' 56.00"N, 79° 55' 16.54"W * Cheat Road (Rt. 119) - 39° 38' 48.85"N, 79° 53' 48.38"W * Rt 705 - 39° 39' 09.40"N, 79° 56' 11.80"W One thing that I need clarified is whether we should/can place the signs outside of city limits. Depending on answer to that, we may need to clarify some of my locations.
Hope this helps. ~Derek
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Bicycle Board Members,
Looks like we're probably going to end up wanting a sign on each major corridor entering Morgantown: routes: 19, 7, 119, 857 and 705. (Did I miss any?)
I think we need to decide the exact detailed locations that we would recommend erecting these signs. PLEASE RESPOND WITH ONE OR MORE LOCATIONS FOR WHICH YOU WOULD DEFINE EXACT LOCATIONS, e.g. latitude and longitude or other similar info that you could give to someone and they could put the sign exactly where you think it should go. (To say, put it on the Mileground, is insufficient.) I will collect your recommendations and prepare them for presentation to the Traffic Commission.
Since we only received 2 signs, we'll need to get more. I'm thinking we could use some of the leftover education grant money, ~$950 to purchase them. Attached is the order form. By copy of this message, I'M ASKING DAMIEN IF HE CAN FIND OUT HOW MUCH SIGNS WOULD COST TO MAKE IF WE PURCHASED THE ART ($200) AND RECOMMEND MAKE OR BUY. (They're 18" x 24", approximately 3/32" thick aluminum and the letters are retroreflective.)
Since all of the corridors are State routes, we will have to work with Fouad Shoukry at WVDOH at least to get permission to erect them. I don't know how they would actually get erected. PLEASE RESPOND IF YOU WILL WORK WITH FOUAD TO GET THE SIGNS ERECTED.
Frank
On May 13, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Damien Davis wrote:
All,
If the location you decide is a State route you will need to work with Fouad Shoukry, District 4 Traffic Engineer to get approval. If it is a City street then I will be happy to work with you.
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
Assistant City Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown , WV 26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
www.morgantown.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christiaan Abildso" cabildso@yahoo.com To: "Ryan Post" rpostwvu@gmail.com, "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com, "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl@gmail.com Cc: "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
Building upon the state bike route connectivity idea, maybe the signs should go on the routes that would connect cyclists from around the state (and out of state) - per Frank's recent email: "We all reached consensus for Tuesday to support improvements on those corridors with Rts. 100 and 857 being the highest priorities"
Thus, my recommendation would be to sign those two routes as they may be the most trafficked, or whichever routes the state DOH agrees to designate as "bike routes" (or whatever other designation they choose). That said, I'm not sure the best place that would welcome people to Morgantown on rte 100 (crossing Westover bridge?) or 857 (705 from Mileground as recommended?). Just my 2 cents. Such great momentum for cycling - thanks to all for the hard work! Christiaan
From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Derek Springston' dspringston@gmail.com; 'Frank Gmeindl' fgmeindl@gmail.com Cc: 'Bike Board - Morgantown' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
I would think there’s 3 main entrys. From Star City, Mileground, and Don Knotts.
Don Knotts has RT in view, and also has STR signage. 705 from Mileground has signage, does Mileground? Going to Coll from Star City would be a top pick for me, but would happen to be on one of the worst places to ride for most; there is a WVU Cycling Adopt a Highway sign at the Corner in front of Sheetz in Granville.
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Derek Springston Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:33 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
BB Members, Similar, but not exact to what Chip stated, I think the best locations to place our new signs are near the Coliseum on Mon Blvd and near the Westover Bridge on University Ave. One other option may be at the 705 and Van Voorhis intersection. Derek
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Frank Gmeindl < fgmeindl@gmail.com > wrote: Bicycle Board Members,
See attached photo. I got 2 of these signs in the mail today. What should I do with them? I'd like to get a picture of all of us putting one up somewhere. Any ideas where and when? I'm sure we'll have to ask the Public Works Dept. for permission and help.
Frank
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Thanks to Derek for doing this!
If you want to see the locations, plug Derek's lat/lon's into http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html
Frank
On May 15, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Derek Springston wrote:
Frank and BB, I recommend these locations showing lat/longs from Google Maps: Mon Blvd near Coliseum - 39° 38' 56.18"N, 79° 58' 46.09"W University Ave (Rt. 119) - 39° 37' 40.80"N, 79° 57' 35.21"W Westover Bridge (Rt. 19) - 39° 37' 47.21"N, 79° 57' 31.17"W Earl L Core Road in Sabraton (Route 7) - 39° 36' 56.00"N, 79° 55' 16.54"W Cheat Road (Rt. 119) - 39° 38' 48.85"N, 79° 53' 48.38"W Rt 705 - 39° 39' 09.40"N, 79° 56' 11.80"W One thing that I need clarified is whether we should/can place the signs outside of city limits. Depending on answer to that, we may need to clarify some of my locations.
Hope this helps.
~Derek
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote: Bicycle Board Members,
Looks like we're probably going to end up wanting a sign on each major corridor entering Morgantown: routes: 19, 7, 119, 857 and 705. (Did I miss any?)
I think we need to decide the exact detailed locations that we would recommend erecting these signs. PLEASE RESPOND WITH ONE OR MORE LOCATIONS FOR WHICH YOU WOULD DEFINE EXACT LOCATIONS, e.g. latitude and longitude or other similar info that you could give to someone and they could put the sign exactly where you think it should go. (To say, put it on the Mileground, is insufficient.) I will collect your recommendations and prepare them for presentation to the Traffic Commission.
Since we only received 2 signs, we'll need to get more. I'm thinking we could use some of the leftover education grant money, ~$950 to purchase them. Attached is the order form. By copy of this message, I'M ASKING DAMIEN IF HE CAN FIND OUT HOW MUCH SIGNS WOULD COST TO MAKE IF WE PURCHASED THE ART ($200) AND RECOMMEND MAKE OR BUY. (They're 18" x 24", approximately 3/32" thick aluminum and the letters are retroreflective.)
Since all of the corridors are State routes, we will have to work with Fouad Shoukry at WVDOH at least to get permission to erect them. I don't know how they would actually get erected. PLEASE RESPOND IF YOU WILL WORK WITH FOUAD TO GET THE SIGNS ERECTED.
Frank
On May 13, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Damien Davis wrote:
All,
If the location you decide is a State route you will need to work with Fouad Shoukry, District 4 Traffic Engineer to get approval. If it is a City street then I will be happy to work with you.
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
Assistant City Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown , WV 26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
www.morgantown.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christiaan Abildso" cabildso@yahoo.com To: "Ryan Post" rpostwvu@gmail.com, "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com, "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl@gmail.com Cc: "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
Building upon the state bike route connectivity idea, maybe the signs should go on the routes that would connect cyclists from around the state (and out of state) - per Frank's recent email: "We all reached consensus for Tuesday to support improvements on those corridors with Rts. 100 and 857 being the highest priorities"
Thus, my recommendation would be to sign those two routes as they may be the most trafficked, or whichever routes the state DOH agrees to designate as "bike routes" (or whatever other designation they choose). That said, I'm not sure the best place that would welcome people to Morgantown on rte 100 (crossing Westover bridge?) or 857 (705 from Mileground as recommended?). Just my 2 cents. Such great momentum for cycling - thanks to all for the hard work! Christiaan
From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Derek Springston' dspringston@gmail.com; 'Frank Gmeindl' fgmeindl@gmail.com Cc: 'Bike Board - Morgantown' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
I would think there’s 3 main entrys. From Star City, Mileground, and Don Knotts.
Don Knotts has RT in view, and also has STR signage. 705 from Mileground has signage, does Mileground? Going to Coll from Star City would be a top pick for me, but would happen to be on one of the worst places to ride for most; there is a WVU Cycling Adopt a Highway sign at the Corner in front of Sheetz in Granville.
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Derek Springston Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:33 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Signs
BB Members, Similar, but not exact to what Chip stated, I think the best locations to place our new signs are near the Coliseum on Mon Blvd and near the Westover Bridge on University Ave. One other option may be at the 705 and Van Voorhis intersection. Derek
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Frank Gmeindl < fgmeindl@gmail.com > wrote: Bicycle Board Members,
See attached photo. I got 2 of these signs in the mail today. What should I do with them? I'd like to get a picture of all of us putting one up somewhere. Any ideas where and when? I'm sure we'll have to ask the Public Works Dept. for permission and help.
Frank
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