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Fwd: Grumbein's Island meeting
by Frank Gmeindl 01 Feb '11

01 Feb '11

Bicycle Board Members, Any ideas for improving Grumbein's Island for cycists? Frank Begin forwarded message: > From: Morgantown Pedestrian Safety Board <walkmgw(a)yahoo.com> > Date: January 28, 2011 2:15:48 PM EST > To: Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net>, Christiaan Abildso <cgabildso(a)mail.wvu.edu>, Bob Anderson <randerson(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Jon Bond <jbond3(a)mix.wvu.edu>, Ilana Chertok <ichertok(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Stan Cohen <Stanley.Cohen(a)mail.wvu.edu>, Chuck Coole <ccoole(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Jan Derry <jderry(a)nwvcil.org>, Dave Harshbarger <harshbargerd(a)wvuh.com>, Dwight Harshbarger <dwight.harshbarger(a)gmail.com>, George Lilley <mgranlil(a)verizon.net>, Regina Mayolo <reginam(a)verizon.net>, Jon Miltenberger <kokiri4ever(a)msn.com>, Jennifer Noori <thenoorinater(a)gmail.com>, Bill Reger-Nash <wreger(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Jonathan Rosenbaum <freesource(a)cheat.org>, Jimmie Simmons <Jsimmons2642(a)yahoo.com>, David Small <dsmall1(a)mix.wvu.edu>, Maria Smith <mariasmith(a)busride.org>, Don Spencer <dspencer36(a)comcast.net>, Martha Summers <msummers(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Angela Wiley <wileya120(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Grumbein's Island meeting > > Fellow pedestrian advocates. I have been invited to attend a meeting with many constituencies to discuss the future of Grumbein's Island (pedestrian area in front of Mountainlair) next Friday at 10:00 AM. The invitees include: > Terry Hough - City > Don Spencer - City > Roy Nutter - City > Christaan Abildso - City > Bryan Radabaugh - State > Alanna Slack - State > Perry Keller - State > Bill Austin - Mgtn/Mon MPO > Rick Colebank - Alpha Assoc > Chuck Branch - Alpha Assoc > Charlie Luttrell - Alpha Assoc > Rob Moyer - WVU > Nelson France - WVU Student > Bob Merow - WVU > Hugh Kierig - WVU > > Please submit any suggestions prior to that meeting. Frank, I could especially use some bicycle design ideas for that area (I've also requested that you be invited). > Best, > Christiaan > > Walk more, safely > > > Morgantown Pedestrian Safety Board > > Christiaan Abildso, Chair > > Bill Reger-Nash, Vice Chair > > http://www.morgantown.com/ped-safety-board.htm > > >

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Agenda for this Thursday's meeting
by Frank Gmeindl 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

Bicycle Board Members, Please find attached, a suggested agenda for this Thursday's regular monthly Bicycle Board meeting. If you have any questions, comments or suggested changes to the agenda, please contact me. Frank D. Gmeindl Chairman, Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board LCI #1703 491 WilsonAvenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles

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Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Grumbein's Island meeting
by Chip Wamsley 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ryan Post" <rpostwvu(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:17:52 -0500 I heard that they considered lowering the road, virtually turning it into a tunnel by putting a deck on top to create a pedestrian mall where the road is now, but there were too many utilities and possibly the steam tunnels to deal with. Instead they built the bridge from the B&E building over to Oglebay, which still doesn't alleviate the ped traffic at Grumbeins. Before the last revamp of the area in the late 80's there was talk of closing Univ Ave in front of the Mountainlair from the intersection of College Ave to the intersection of Prospect Street. Through traffic would probably adjust, although there were fears of more congestion on Beechurst and Main Street Morgaqntown was concerned it would cut off traffic to the downtown, affecting its viability. Chip >I REALLY like the thinking outside the box on this. I was very quickly sold >on it, then realized it may also trap people in the middle. > > > >I think a stairway there wouldn't be used by pedestrians, because it'd a >long way around vs just crossing the road. Unless the road were lowered, >which has its own issues. > > > >From: bikeboard-bounces(a)cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On >Behalf Of John Lozier >Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:29 PM >To: Frank Gmeindl >Cc: Bicycle Board; Christiaan Abildso >Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Grumbein's Island meeting > > > >Not just for cyclists but for pedestrians and motorists: > > > >Install a moving gate on the island, that slowly travels back and forth. >Gate would be about the length of a car, would break pedestrian traffic into >segments segments or "slugs" that would alternate with a car or two. > > > >Best. > > > >On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Frank Gmeindl wrote: > > > > > >Bicycle Board Members, > > > >Any ideas for improving Grumbein's Island for cycists? > > > >Frank > > > >Begin forwarded message: > > > > > >From: Morgantown Pedestrian Safety Board <walkmgw(a)yahoo.com> > >Date: January 28, 2011 2:15:48 PM EST > >To: Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net>, Christiaan Abildso ><cgabildso(a)mail.wvu.edu>, Bob Anderson <randerson(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Jon Bond ><jbond3(a)mix.wvu.edu>, Ilana Chertok <ichertok(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Stan Cohen ><Stanley.Cohen(a)mail.wvu.edu>, Chuck Coole <ccoole(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Jan Derry ><jderry(a)nwvcil.org>, Dave Harshbarger <harshbargerd(a)wvuh.com>, Dwight >Harshbarger <dwight.harshbarger(a)gmail.com>, George Lilley ><mgranlil(a)verizon.net>, Regina Mayolo <reginam(a)verizon.net>, Jon >Miltenberger <kokiri4ever(a)msn.com>, Jennifer Noori ><thenoorinater(a)gmail.com>, Bill Reger-Nash <wreger(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Jonathan >Rosenbaum <freesource(a)cheat.org>, Jimmie Simmons <Jsimmons2642(a)yahoo.com>, >David Small <dsmall1(a)mix.wvu.edu>, Maria Smith <mariasmith(a)busride.org>, Don >Spencer <dspencer36(a)comcast.net>, Martha Summers <msummers(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, >Angela Wiley <wileya120(a)gmail.com> > >Subject: Grumbein's Island meeting > > > > > >Fellow pedestrian advocates. I have been invited to attend a meeting with >many constituencies to discuss the future of Grumbein's Island (pedestrian >area in front of Mountainlair) next Friday at 10:00 AM. The invitees >include: > >Terry Hough - City > >Don Spencer - City > >Roy Nutter - City > >Christaan Abildso - City > >Bryan Radabaugh - State > >Alanna Slack - State > >Perry Keller - State > >Bill Austin - Mgtn/Mon MPO > >Rick Colebank - Alpha Assoc > >Chuck Branch - Alpha Assoc > >Charlie Luttrell - Alpha Assoc > >Rob Moyer - WVU > >Nelson France - WVU Student > >Bob Merow - WVU > >Hugh Kierig - WVU > > > >Please submit any suggestions prior to that meeting. Frank, I could >especially use some bicycle design ideas for that area (I've also requested >that you be invited). > >Best, > >Christiaan > > >Walk more, safely > > > >Morgantown Pedestrian Safety Board > >Christiaan Abildso, Chair > >Bill Reger-Nash, Vice Chair > > <http://www.morgantown.com/ped-safety-board.htm> >http://www.morgantown.com/ped-safety-board.htm > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Bikeboard mailing list > >Bikeboard(a)cheat.org > >http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard > > > >John Lozier > >Morgantown, WV > >www.harpingforharmony.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Grumbein's Island meeting
by Chip Wamsley 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:37:57 -0500 Frank et al, Gunnar is right, with pedestrians crossing anywhere, at anytime, fearlessly, not paying attention along several hundred feet the opportunity for cyclists to get knocked off their bikes is huge. I've known lots of folks who have been knocked off their bikes by pedestrians stepping off the curb. Either make it a pedestrian mall, put traffic underneath in a tunnel or both--not cheap. Chip >Bicycle Board Members, > >Any ideas for improving Grumbein's Island for cycists? > >Frank > >Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Morgantown Pedestrian Safety Board <walkmgw(a)yahoo.com> >> Date: January 28, 2011 2:15:48 PM EST >> To: Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net>, Christiaan Abildso <cgabildso(a)mail.wvu.edu>, Bob Anderson <randerson(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Jon Bond <jbond3(a)mix.wvu.edu>, Ilana Chertok <ichertok(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Stan Cohen <Stanley.Cohen(a)mail.wvu.edu>, Chuck Coole <ccoole(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Jan Derry <jderry(a)nwvcil.org>, Dave Harshbarger <harshbargerd(a)wvuh.com>, Dwight Harshbarger <dwight.harshbarger(a)gmail.com>, George Lilley <mgranlil(a)verizon.net>, Regina Mayolo <reginam(a)verizon.net>, Jon Miltenberger <kokiri4ever(a)msn.com>, Jennifer Noori <thenoorinater(a)gmail.com>, Bill Reger-Nash <wreger(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Jonathan Rosenbaum <freesource(a)cheat.org>, Jimmie Simmons <Jsimmons2642(a)yahoo.com>, David Small <dsmall1(a)mix.wvu.edu>, Maria Smith <mariasmith(a)busride.org>, Don Spencer <dspencer36(a)comcast.net>, Martha Summers <msummers(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Angela Wiley <wileya120(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Grumbein's Island meeting >> >> Fellow pedestrian advocates. I have been invited to attend a meeting with many constituencies to discuss the future of Grumbein's Island (pedestrian area in front of Mountainlair) next Friday at 10:00 AM. The invitees include: >> Terry Hough - City >> Don Spencer - City >> Roy Nutter - City >> Christaan Abildso - City >> Bryan Radabaugh - State >> Alanna Slack - State >> Perry Keller - State >> Bill Austin - Mgtn/Mon MPO >> Rick Colebank - Alpha Assoc >> Chuck Branch - Alpha Assoc >> Charlie Luttrell - Alpha Assoc >> Rob Moyer - WVU >> Nelson France - WVU Student >> Bob Merow - WVU >> Hugh Kierig - WVU >> >> Please submit any suggestions prior to that meeting. Frank, I could especially use some bicycle design ideas for that area (I've also requested that you be invited). >> Best, >> Christiaan >> >> Walk more, safely >> >> >> Morgantown Pedestrian Safety Board >> >> Christiaan Abildso, Chair >> >> Bill Reger-Nash, Vice Chair >> >> http://www.morgantown.com/ped-safety-board.htm >> >> >> > > > > >

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BikeMorgantown program evaluation opportunity for EDP 617
by Jim Rye 25 Jan '11

25 Jan '11

Reagan, below is a brief description of a program evaluation opportunity and contact info etc for EDP 617. Organization: Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board Related Grant: Morgantown Effective Bicycling Education Program (Sponsored by the Federal Highway Administration's Transportation Enhancement Program, administered by the West Virginia Department of Transportation, Division of Highways). Primary Contact: Jim Rye (304 293 4416 jim.rye(a)mail.wvu.edu) Evaluation Need: Effectiveness (impact) of BikeMorgantown web site (http://bikemorgantown.com/) on changing bicyclist and motorist behavior. For example: To what degree has the web site influenced motorists to treat bicyclists as drivers of vehicles? To what degree has the web site influenced bicyclists to drive their bicycles as vehicles? James A. Rye West Virginia University Educational Theory and Practice PO Box 6122 604 Allen Hall Morgantown, WV 26506-6122 jim.rye(a)mail.wvu.edu Phone: (304) 293-4416 Fax: (304) 293-3802

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Fwd: Re: Free Evaluation Services
by Jim Rye 23 Jan '11

23 Jan '11

Folks, I have not hear from anyone re: the service described below as a potential for evaluating our web site. Perhaps at this point it is not a priority. If anyone wants me to go forward and submit a request for such evaluation, please let me know by Tuesday. Otherwise, I am inclined to pass up the opportunity this year. Thank you James A. Rye, Professor West Virginia University Department of Curriculum & Instruction/Literacy Studies PO Box 6122 604 Allen Hall Morgantown, WV 26506-6122 jim.rye(a)mail.wvu.edu Phone: (304) 293-4416 Fax: (304) 293-3802 Web: http://depts.hre.wvu.edu/c&ils/currinst/rye.html "The first wealth is health." -Ralph Waldo Emerson >>> Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net> 1/3/2011 2:17 PM >>> Jim, I wonder if pointing at BikeMorgantown.com and challenging the EDP617 candidate to evaluate the effectiveness of BikeMorgantown.com at influencing cyclists to drive their bicycles as vehicles and influencing motorists to treat bicyclist as drivers of vehicles would get us anywhere? Frank On Jan 3, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Jim Rye wrote: Frank, again, this opportunity has presented itself. If there is anything that you think we should submit for MEBEP, I can do that. PS: I am working at home today so will not be able to forward to you the 700 mpg info until tomorrow. Jim Rye Professor Dept C&I/LS West Virginia University PO Box 6122 604H Allen Hall Morgantown, WV 26506-6122 Phone: (304) 293-4416 Fax: (304) 293-3802 http://depts.hre.wvu.edu/c&ils/currinst/rye.html "The first wealth is health." -Ralph Waldo Emerson From: Reagan Curtis <Reagan.Curtis(a)MAIL.WVU.EDU> Date: January 3, 2011 1:39:30 PM EST To: HRE-FACULTY(a)listserv.wvu.edu Subject: Free Evaluation Services Reply-To: Reagan Curtis <Reagan.Curtis(a)MAIL.WVU.EDU> Hello Colleagues, I am teaching EDP617: Program Evaluation as an online course this semester and requiring that students design and conduct evaluations of actual programs (with my supervision). If you have any program evaluation work you think a student or small group of students could help you with, please let me know ( reagan.curtis(a)mail.wvu.edu ) and I will make my class aware of the potential opportunity. Also, feel free to forward this to others you think might like to take advantage of this opportunity. Please be aware that students will be choosing among several options based on their individual preferences so I cannot guarantee that your program will be selected for evaluation. I can, however, assure you that if your program is selected I will be working closely with students and requiring that they work closely with you to consider your evaluation needs. I am including the syllabus for the course to give you an idea of the time lines and assignments involved. Thanks! Reagan Curtis, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Educational Psychology, Program Evaluation, and Research Methods West Virginia University Department of Technology, Learning, & Culture Allen Hall 507D Phone: (304)293-2098 Fax: (304)293-9424 http://tlc.wvu.edu/academics/edpsych/edp_faculty/dr_reagan_curtis <Syllabus.PDF>

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FWD: San Francisco Bicycle Environmental Quality Index
by director 21 Jan '11

21 Jan '11

Good morning, I was cleaning out my inbox and came across this survey I was asked to fill out a few months ago and thought it might be of interest as we've talked about creating surveys here. I like the technique they use of asking importance and then weighting it with a relevance. Please feel free to contribute to the survey if you feel qualified to do so, it appears to be open still. Looking forward to seeing who's out riding in the snow today. Nick ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Jennifer McLaughlin <Jennifer.McLaughlin(a)sfdph.org> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:14:16 -0700 October 7, 2010 Dear Mr. Hein, The San Francisco Department of Public Health is developing a quantitative index to measure the quality of the bicycle environment to serve as a tool for public health, transportation, and land use planning. We are requesting that you participate in a brief survey to help us develop weights for each component variable in the index. Our Bicycle Environmental Quality Index (BEQI) is intended to translate environmental variables into a set of provisions for a healthy bicycle environment and can inform neighborhood planning and prioritize improvements through land use plans, transportation plans, and environmental assessments. From a public health perspective, improving the quality of the bicycle environment can support physical activity through active transportation, increase social cohesion, and reduce air pollution, noise and injuries associated with driving. Thus far, we have identified indicators that are empirically known to affect bicycle environmental quality and have subdivided the indicators into five domains: Intersection Features, Vehicle Traffic, Street Design, and Land Use. The indicators were chosen to correspond with an urban bicycle environment, some features typically used for all street types and others primarily for arterial streets. We are asking you to help us develop indicator values and indicator weights by doing the following: 1. Rate the importance of each proposed indicator for bicycle environmental quality and safety in our index on a scale from 1 to 5 (not important to essential). 2. For each indicator, rate the relative contribution to bicycle environmental quality and safety of the proposed indicator values on a scale of -5 to +5 (significantly reduces bicycle environmental quality and safety to significantly benefits bicycle environmental quality and safety). For ease of completion, we have created an online survey with additional instructions available. BEQI Survey - https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HW93GJJ We are requesting that participants respond by October 21, 2010. You can also read more about the BEQI development and methodology at http://www.sfphes.org/HIA_Tools_BEQI.htm We sincerely appreciate your willingness to help us in this endeavor. Please do not hesitate to contact Jen McLaughlin directly at 415-252-3879 should you have any. Thank you again for your time. Jen McLaughlin Jen McLaughlin, MS Environmental Health Planner San Francisco Dept. of Public Health, Environmental Health 1390 Market St., Suite 822 San Francisco, CA 94102 jennifer.mclaughlin(a)sfdph.org (415) 252-3879 -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 803 East Brockway Ave Morgantown, WV ph 304-276-0213 --

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Re: [Bikeboard] Survey
by Frank Gmeindl 21 Jan '11

21 Jan '11

Boulder has a nice bike parking survey at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=HEGcw8m8r6CKeyP7qdy58w_3d_3d You can step through it without having to answer anything. I think it contains the questions we want to ask. It is very important that before you issue a survey, you know how you're going to analyze the data and use the results to make decisions. Otherwise, you'll be saying, "I wish we would have..." Frank On Jan 21, 2011, at 11:41 AM, chip wamsley wrote: > We should include in the survey the time frame people would like to use the lockers--on demand for short term occasional use vs long term lease for the daily commuter. > > Chip > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Chip Wamsley <chip(a)wamsleycycles.com> wrote: > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net> > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:11:10 -0500 > > Frank er al, > > Here is a site that has some info on locker rates, even though it's from 2000. It looks like they are in the $75-85/year, not counting key deposit. Some other good info on city bike parking ordinances as well. > > http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/engineering/parking.cfm > > Chip > > >Parking Committee Members, > > > >As we discussed at this morning's meeting, we are going to do a survey to determine who would use bike lockers, how much they would be willing to pay and where we should put them. If you have additional ideas on what we should try to learn with the survey or how we should construct the survey, please reply-all with them. > > > >Thanks to all of you that turned out in these challenging conditions! > > > >Frank > >_______________________________________________ > >Bikeboard mailing list > >Bikeboard(a)cheat.org > >http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard > > >

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Re: [Bikeboard] Survey
by Frank Gmeindl 21 Jan '11

21 Jan '11

On Jan 21, 2011, at 11:41 AM, chip wamsley wrote: > We should include in the survey the time frame people would like to use the lockers--on demand for short term occasional use vs long term lease for the daily commuter. > > Chip > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Chip Wamsley <chip(a)wamsleycycles.com> wrote: > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net> > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:11:10 -0500 > > Frank er al, > > Here is a site that has some info on locker rates, even though it's from 2000. It looks like they are in the $75-85/year, not counting key deposit. Some other good info on city bike parking ordinances as well. > > http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/engineering/parking.cfm > > Chip > > >Parking Committee Members, > > > >As we discussed at this morning's meeting, we are going to do a survey to determine who would use bike lockers, how much they would be willing to pay and where we should put them. If you have additional ideas on what we should try to learn with the survey or how we should construct the survey, please reply-all with them. > > > >Thanks to all of you that turned out in these challenging conditions! > > > >Frank > >_______________________________________________ > >Bikeboard mailing list > >Bikeboard(a)cheat.org > >http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard > > >

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Re: [Bikeboard] Survey
by Jonathan Rosenbaum 21 Jan '11

21 Jan '11

There's one bad problem with the google survey approach, you can submit the form an unlimited times. Good surveys employ a variety of techniques to prevent this from happening. -Jonathan On 1/21/2011 11:34 AM, Chip Wamsley wrote: > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Gunnar Shogren<gshogren(a)gmail.com> > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:25:23 -0500 > > The google docs survey looks good. I've participated in lots of survey monkey surveys and found that they often get broken links? not allowing you to progress forward to complete the survey and there was no link on each page to signal back to survey monkey that they had a problem. I wonder how many surveys went unanswered because of this type of problem? > > Chip > >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Chet Parsons<chetparsons(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Haven't used it, but it appears that you can create a survey using Google >>> Docs and it automatically populates a spreadsheet with the results. >>> http://www.workhappy.net/2009/05/using-google-docs-to-make-a-survey.html >> Dang yo. >> That is pretty damn slick. >> No bad comments on that person's page, and the fact that you can embed >> it, goes right into a spreadsheet, blah, blah, blah... is this a >> winner? >> If not a winner then certainly something that we could try ourselves >> w/o bunging things up in public. >> >> Let's get some questions generated and try it out! >> >> I gotta shovel some now though... >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Gunnar Shogren<gshogren(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Per my action item at today's Parking and Budget Comm. meeting- >>>> >>>> Here's info on Survey Monkey, cost and details- >>>> Per month >>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/pricing/details?t=c2&select=monthly >>>> Per year >>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/pricing/details?t=c2annual&select=annual >>>> >>>> Big thing w/ the Basic (free) service is that it only allows 10 >>>> questions per survey and 100 responses. >>>> >>>> They do offer a 25% discount for non-profit agencies and such. >>>> >>>> Found a little comparison of three different survey companies, but >>>> unfortunately I can only view it through the cached results of google- >>>> >>>> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TdLUhKgL09sJ:www.theba… >>>> Here's where it's supposed to be though- >>>> http://www.thebalcomgroup.com/node/139 >>>> >>>> Looks like Survey Gizmo might be one to look at as they allow >>>> unlimited questions at the basic level and more responses as well. >>>> http://www.surveygizmo.com/ >>>> >>>> Basic might be enough w/ them. >>>> >>>> I don't know enough about surveys in general to make any other decisions. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Don Spencer<dspencer36(a)comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Chip – Great article on the bike parking! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am sorry that I had to leave the meeting before the decisions were >>>>> reached, but I did get to make a motion that we consider groups of 4 >>>>> lockers >>>>> for a corner in each of the city garages. I mentioned the Pubic Safety >>>>> Garage and would also now like to include the University Ave garage as >>>>> well >>>>> as a priority and then the Wharf garage as a second priority. The reason >>>>> for >>>>> my thinking is that I think that we have to give priority to the goal of >>>>> increasing commuter cycling rather than to adding convenience for >>>>> recreational cycling. Both are important, but for us, I believe the >>>>> commuter >>>>> cycling has to be our prime focus. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The article that you sent talks about the use of lockers for day long >>>>> and >>>>> overnight parking, and this it what I think we should also aim for in >>>>> the >>>>> use of the lockers so that people working at businesses, teaching or >>>>> assisting in classes, working at libraries or offices will have a place >>>>> they >>>>> can ride to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am not comfortable with the plan for a survey because I question who >>>>> is >>>>> going to learn about the survey. It might be just a limited group of >>>>> computer users who would find out about the survey and actually follow >>>>> up on >>>>> the information. I am also very fearful that the committee could be >>>>> accused >>>>> of spot locating lockers because of individual responses. As a public >>>>> entity, we cannot be “special ordering” lockers for individuals. Our >>>>> planning needs to be systematic – based on systems thinking which >>>>> locates >>>>> lockers based on principles – such as proximity to destinations, >>>>> security, >>>>> weather sheltering, critical mass, population density, etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From the discussion, I suggest that we ask for $15,000 for bicycle >>>>> parking >>>>> lockers to enable the installation of 4 lockers at each of the 3 main >>>>> garages. If the costs of the lockers and freight exceed the $15K amount, >>>>> then I suggest that we ask Tom Arnold to assume responsibility for the >>>>> remaining costs from anticipated revenues. I also recommend that we >>>>> inform >>>>> WVU (through Hugh) of what we are doing and hope that WVU might do the >>>>> same >>>>> thing in their two main garages. (Perhaps they will want to do more at >>>>> the >>>>> Engineering and the Law School areas as well). Perhaps the lockers at >>>>> all >>>>> sites could use a common blue color so that there could be more ready >>>>> identification of the locker infrastructure by cyclists and the public. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, there are just my reactions to the discussion and the article. I >>>>> look forward to our next meeting and any additional data that you come >>>>> up >>>>> with. Has a date been set for the next Parking Meeting? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By the way, my input on suggested costs, after looking at the article, >>>>> would >>>>> be 10 per month, 55 for six months and 100 per year. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Don >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> From: Chip Wamsley [mailto:chip@wamsleycycles.com] >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:36 AM >>>>> To: Don Spencer; chip wamsley; Hugh.Kierig(a)mail.wvu.edu; Gunnar Shogren; >>>>> Jonathan Rosenbaum; Alice Vernon; Frank Gmeindl >>>>> Cc: Bicycle Board >>>>> Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Survey >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>>>> From: Frank Gmeindl<frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net> >>>>> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:11:10 -0500 >>>>> >>>>> Frank er al, >>>>> >>>>> Here is a site that has some info on locker rates, even though it's from >>>>> 2000. It looks like they are in the $75-85/year, not counting key >>>>> deposit. >>>>> Some other good info on city bike parking ordinances as well. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/engineering/parking.cfm >>>>> >>>>> Chip >>>>> >>>>>> Parking Committee Members, >>>>>> >>>>>> As we discussed at this morning's meeting, we are going to do a survey >>>>>> to >>>>>> determine who would use bike lockers, how much they would be willing to >>>>>> pay >>>>>> and where we should put them. If you have additional ideas on what we >>>>>> should try to learn with the survey or how we should construct the >>>>>> survey, >>>>>> please reply-all with them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to all of you that turned out in these challenging conditions! >>>>>> >>>>>> Frank >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Bikeboard mailing list >>>>>> Bikeboard(a)cheat.org >>>>>> http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard >>>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3378 - Release Date: 01/13/11 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bikeboard mailing list >>>> Bikeboard(a)cheat.org >>>> http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikeboard mailing list >> Bikeboard(a)cheat.org >> http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bikeboard mailing list > Bikeboard(a)cheat.org > http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard

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