Bikeboard May 2010

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Meeting this Thursday
by Frank Gmeindl 30 May '10

30 May '10

Bicycle Board Members, At your earliest convenience, please reply with any items that you want to put on the agenda for this Thursday's meeting. On the Sunday before the meeting, I usually compose the agenda using the minutes of the last meeting and the agenda of the last meeting. My hard drive failed last week and I lost them. One thing to think about in advance of this week's meeting is that we're scheduled to shoot the cycling education video spots next weekend and need 9 cyclists and 13 car drivers. Attached are the scripts for the spots. Please reply if you want to be a star or know someone who would be good for one of the roles. Frank Gmeindl Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles

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Police
by Frank Gmeindl 29 May '10

29 May '10

Bicycle Board Members, Next Tuesday, June 1, I will meet with Officer Steve Bennett of the Morgantown Police Department. The primary purpose of the meeting is to establish collaboration between the Police Dept. and the Bicycle Board on the video spots that we plan to shoot June 6. I would like your suggestions about how to make the best of this opportunity not just with regard to the video spots but also the entire Bicycle Board scope. Friday 5/21, I met with Assistant City Manager Jeff Mikorski and Chief of Police Phil Scott. I described the videos to Chief Scott (see attached scripts) and suggested collaboration. He agreed and named Officer Bennet point of contact. I understand that Steve is the lead officer on the bicycle force. On 5/18, I met with Danny Camden who is a WVU bicycle police officer and International Police Mountain Bike Association instructor (excellent program) and he also was very supportive of collaboration. My goal is to establish a joint Bicycle Board, Morgantown Police, WVU Police bicycle program. I don't know what it will be and I need your ideas. Frank Gmeindl Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles

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Response revised
by Frank Gmeindl 27 May '10

27 May '10

Thanks to Hugh for prompting me to discover that the DP has a 300 word limit on letters to the editor. Attached is a revision that fits. Please let me know by 5 today if I should change anything. Frank Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles

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Re: [Bikeboard] Letter to Editor
by director 27 May '10

27 May '10

Frank, I'd like to offer these comments for consideration.... - Someone who judges issues as hastily and superficially as Mr. Bolyard will probably only read the first paragraph. You might start the article with the conclusion - Cars are REALLY expensive to operate - even with the (apparently) high ownership costs, they are still heavily subsidized by non-driving taxpayers. Bicycles, even with their (apparently) cost-free operation are still paying MORE than the costs they incur. - You might try to shorten the article for the same reason, but putting the most important point first would still be a good idea. Hope this helps. Thanks for your thoughtful draft. Nick btw Frank, it came through fine the second time you sent it. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:17:16 -0400 >Nick, > >See attached. I'm using a Mac so the problem may not be your reader. > > -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 2567 Univ Ave Ste 6000L Morgantown, WV ph 304-685-8954 --

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FWD: [bikepoweredmachines] Pedaling produces power at University of Oregon
by director 27 May '10

27 May '10

Can someone please pass this on to someone at the Rec Center? Thanks, Nick ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "San" <k9yt(a)arrl.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:21:32 -0000 May 18, 2009 12:19 PM >From The Seattle Times: The University of Oregonis the latest in a growing number of college campuses and exercise clubs where workouts produce watts. Splitting the $14,000 cost with a local utility, the school has retrofitted 20 elliptical machines to generate electricity. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009231642_sweat18m.html http://rerev.com/ The power from each machine in the Student Recreation Center goes through a converter that turns DC into AC, and a meter to keep track before it flows into the grid. The amount of electricity produced is small. The university estimates that 3,000 people a day on 20 machines would generate 6,000 kilowatt hours a year, enough to power one small energy-efficient house in the Northwest. But it fits in with other sustainability projects, such as solar panels on the rec-center roof, and a sense of being green among students. Find this article at: http://www.asumag.com/dailynews/university-oregon-exercise-equipment-energy… -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 2567 Univ Ave Ste 6000L Morgantown, WV ph 304-685-8954 --

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Letter to Editor
by Frank Gmeindl 27 May '10

27 May '10

Bicycle Board Members, Attached is a response to Dennis Bolyard's letter that I propose to send to the Dominion Post. Please use track changes or comments to indicate improvements and send to me. I plan to submit but 5:00 pm today. Sorry for not including the whole BB on my first response of yesterday that I sent to the Education Committee. Frank D. Gmeindl Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles

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Fw: LTE about the Green Life article
by guitardeek＠hotmail.com 27 May '10

27 May '10

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular -----Original Message----- From: guitardeek(a)hotmail.com Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:39:28 To: Nick Hein<director(a)positivespin.org>; Jonathan Rosenbaum<freesource(a)cheat.org> Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] LTE about the Green Life article Nick and Jonathan, Nicely put. I assume it's all true as you're well-educated concerning cyclists. I hope that a reply like yours to the motorists concern gets published in the paper. Another point that could be made is that cyclists using roads that are already created ultimately reduces the need to create and fund trail building projects. I'm not against trails, as I use them, but if we could all share the roads it could reduce the need for our communities or governments to find more money for extra trail-building and maintenance. Just a thought. Maybe this point shouldn't be included in a reply because I think trails and roads work well together to benefit those who use both. We are also reducing our impact on the roads and therefore benefitting taxpayers! Derek Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular -----Original Message----- From: "director" <director(a)positivespin.org> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:18:36 To: Bike Board<bikeboard(a)cheat.org>; Jonathan Rosenbaum<freesource(a)cheat.org> Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] LTE about the Green Life article Jonathan, I think the best point to make in response to a letter like this is as follows. Motorists are paying for insurance, fees, taxes, etc according to the costs they incur. The object is to pay according to what your costs. In spite of the all the money motorists pay for the privilege of driving on public roads, they are still getting subsidized. Bicyclists on the other hand, incur much lower costs which have been found to be more than covered by the federal income taxes we pay, so that no additional fees or taxes are necessary. In fact, bicyclist are subsidizing motorists and not the other way around as is popularly (mis) judged. I can find references to back this up, or refer you to the Alliance for Biking and Walking - they should have the info. Nick ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Jonathan Rosenbaum <freesource(a)cheat.org> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:02:29 -0400 >It was bound to happen soon or later, but a contrarian who believes that >privileges (rights) need to be purchased wrote a letter to the Dominion >Post editor about our last excellent BB article. There is clearly a >separation between having "rights" and having to pay for licenses, >insurance, and property taxes. Do you think the BB should address this >person's question? I don't subscribe to the electronic DP so I've typed >the article out below: > > *Want the rights? Pay for responsibilities* > > It was with amazement that I read the column in Thursday's [The > Dominion Post] in the Green Life page about bicyclists. The title > of the article "Same road, same rights, same rules" was read in > disbelief. > In my opinion, as well as quite a few of my friends', they [the > bicyclists] can have the same rights when they start paying for > license plates as we car and truck owners do. > They can have the same rights when they pay the property taxes > we do on our vehicles. > They can have the same rights when they have to carry the state > minimum insurance as we are required by law to have. > If we have to have all of these things to drive our vehicles on > the roads and they have the same rights as we do, then why do they > not pay the same as we do to have the "privilege" to drive on our roads? > > *Dennis Bolyard > Kingwood* > > > > > > > > -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 2567 Univ Ave Ste 6000L Morgantown, WV ph 304-685-8954 -- _______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard(a)cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard

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Re: [Bikeboard] LTE about the Green Life article
by director 27 May '10

27 May '10

Jonathan, I think the best point to make in response to a letter like this is as follows. Motorists are paying for insurance, fees, taxes, etc according to the costs they incur. The object is to pay according to what your costs. In spite of the all the money motorists pay for the privilege of driving on public roads, they are still getting subsidized. Bicyclists on the other hand, incur much lower costs which have been found to be more than covered by the federal income taxes we pay, so that no additional fees or taxes are necessary. In fact, bicyclist are subsidizing motorists and not the other way around as is popularly (mis) judged. I can find references to back this up, or refer you to the Alliance for Biking and Walking - they should have the info. Nick ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Jonathan Rosenbaum <freesource(a)cheat.org> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:02:29 -0400 >It was bound to happen soon or later, but a contrarian who believes that >privileges (rights) need to be purchased wrote a letter to the Dominion >Post editor about our last excellent BB article. There is clearly a >separation between having "rights" and having to pay for licenses, >insurance, and property taxes. Do you think the BB should address this >person's question? I don't subscribe to the electronic DP so I've typed >the article out below: > > *Want the rights? Pay for responsibilities* > > It was with amazement that I read the column in Thursday's [The > Dominion Post] in the Green Life page about bicyclists. The title > of the article "Same road, same rights, same rules" was read in > disbelief. > In my opinion, as well as quite a few of my friends', they [the > bicyclists] can have the same rights when they start paying for > license plates as we car and truck owners do. > They can have the same rights when they pay the property taxes > we do on our vehicles. > They can have the same rights when they have to carry the state > minimum insurance as we are required by law to have. > If we have to have all of these things to drive our vehicles on > the roads and they have the same rights as we do, then why do they > not pay the same as we do to have the "privilege" to drive on our roads? > > *Dennis Bolyard > Kingwood* > > > > > > > > -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 2567 Univ Ave Ste 6000L Morgantown, WV ph 304-685-8954 --

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LTE about the Green Life article
by Jonathan Rosenbaum 26 May '10

26 May '10

It was bound to happen soon or later, but a contrarian who believes that privileges (rights) need to be purchased wrote a letter to the Dominion Post editor about our last excellent BB article. There is clearly a separation between having "rights" and having to pay for licenses, insurance, and property taxes. Do you think the BB should address this person's question? I don't subscribe to the electronic DP so I've typed the article out below: *Want the rights? Pay for responsibilities* It was with amazement that I read the column in Thursday's [The Dominion Post] in the Green Life page about bicyclists. The title of the article "Same road, same rights, same rules" was read in disbelief. In my opinion, as well as quite a few of my friends', they [the bicyclists] can have the same rights when they start paying for license plates as we car and truck owners do. They can have the same rights when they pay the property taxes we do on our vehicles. They can have the same rights when they have to carry the state minimum insurance as we are required by law to have. If we have to have all of these things to drive our vehicles on the roads and they have the same rights as we do, then why do they not pay the same as we do to have the "privilege" to drive on our roads? *Dennis Bolyard Kingwood*

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Pittsburgh bronzed!
by director 17 May '10

17 May '10

Good afternoon, Just got my League newsletter with announcements of new bike friendly cities. Pittsburgh has been awarded bronze - Will this doesn't get anyone more motivated to get it here in Morgantown. I'll do a part as long I'm not doing it alone. Nick -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 2567 Univ Ave Ste 6000L Morgantown, WV ph 304-685-8954 --

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