Frank,
I just went over the changes. You did an excellent job in incorporating many of my comments. Kudos.
I did make a grammatical change on page 9. On page 20, I still have concerns with the City taking the lead on three of the projects. These are projects that are either entirely outside City limits or a large portion is outside. Given this, we cannot extend our jurisdiction on these projects. We will gladly work with any agencies regarding these projects in areas that are within City limits, but we can't go outside.
Once again, good job. Terry
Terry L. Hough P.E., P.S, CFM Director of Public Works and Engineering 389 Spruce Street Morgantown, WV 26505 304-284-7412 though@cityofmorgantown.org
From: "Frank Gmeindl" frank.gmeindl@comcast.net To: "Terry Hough" though@cityofmorgantown.org Cc: "Bicycle Board" bikeboard@cheat.org, mmccabe@cityofmorgantown.org, "Wes Nugent" wes@wnugent.com, "Jaime Lewis" j4im3s@gmail.com, "david mckain" david.mckain@gmail.com, "Adam Henry" Adam.Henry@mail.wvu.edu, christophergluck@gmail.com, "Paul Steele" psteel@access.k12.wv.us, "Andrea Soccorsi" Andrea.Soccorsi@Mail.WVU.edu, "Barbara Shellito" bshellito@cityofmorgantown.org, "Christiaan Abildso" Christiaan.Abildso@mail.wvu.edu, "Ken Martis" kmartis@wvu.edu, "margaret Roberts" Margaretormike@aol.com, "Roy Nutter" rnutter@wvu.edu, "Terrence Moore" tmoore@cityofmorgantown.org, "Jeff Mikorski" jmikorski@cityofmorgantown.org, "Ed Preston" epreston@cityofmorgantown.org, mwise@boparc.org, "Bill Austin" baustin@labyrinth.net, "Fouad N Shoukry" fouad.n.shoukry@wv.gov, "Richard Warner" Richard.L.Warner@wv.gov, "Perry J Keller" Perry.J.Keller@wv.gov, WSTAFFORD@wilbursmith.com, "Tom Arnold" tarnold@cityofmorgantown.org, Bruffy@busride.org, "Christopher Fletcher" cfletcher@cityofmorgantown.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 9:59:40 AM Subject: Re: Morgantown Bicycle Plan
Terry,
Please find attached, two files:
1. v12CommentsHough.docx: your marked up copy with our responses adjacent to your comments.; 2. MBPv13wchanges.docx: an updated version of the plan that shows the changes that we made in response to your comments as well as to comments from Chris Fletcher and Bill Austin.
I hope we have converged to a plan that all those on the distribution of this message will support. However, the only plans that don't continue to change are those that are never implemented. So, we remain open to suggestions to improve this one so that it will get implemented.
The versions of the plan and the comments that we receive with our responses to the comments can all be found at http://db.tt/Bse1rpGr .
Frank D. Gmeindl Chairman, Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board LCI #1703 491 WilsonAvenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles
On Dec 19, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Terry Hough wrote:
Frank,
I had a brief conversation with Steve Fanok this afternoon regarding the bicycle plan. His comments were basically that the plan cannot mandate any actions by the City or its administration. Words like consider, recommend, suggest, explore, etc. need to be used as opposed to will, shall, must, require, etc. You guys did an excellent job in taking out a lot of the words that would mandate action, just need to address the wills. Secondly, examples of areas where there are problems should not be included. These open up the City to liability issues. Problems such as drainage grates, blind curves, etc. can be addressed generally, but not specific locations.
Once a final version is ready to go to City Council, he will review it again.
Let me know if you have ANY questions or concerns as I'm sure that you would rather deal with them now than wait until later.
Thanks again for ALL of your hard work. Terry
Terry L. Hough P.E., P.S, CFM Director of Public Works and Engineering 389 Spruce Street Morgantown, WV 26505 304-284-7412 though@cityofmorgantown.org
From: "Frank Gmeindl" < frank.gmeindl@comcast.net > To: "Christopher Fletcher" < cfletcher@cityofmorgantown.org > Cc: "Bicycle Board" < bikeboard@cheat.org >, mmccabe@cityofmorgantown.org , "Wes Nugent" < wes@wnugent.com >, "Jaime Lewis" < j4im3s@gmail.com >, "david mckain" < david.mckain@gmail.com >, "Adam Henry" < Adam.Henry@mail.wvu.edu >, christophergluck@gmail.com , "Paul Steele" < psteel@access.k12.wv.us >, "Andrea Soccorsi" < Andrea.Soccorsi@Mail.WVU.edu >, "Barbara Shellito" < bshellito@cityofmorgantown.org >, "Christiaan Abildso" < Christiaan.Abildso@mail.wvu.edu >, "Ken Martis" < kmartis@wvu.edu >, "margaret Roberts" < Margaretormike@aol.com >, "Roy Nutter" < rnutter@wvu.edu >, "Terrence Moore" < tmoore@cityofmorgantown.org >, "Jeff Mikorski" < jmikorski@cityofmorgantown.org >, "Terry Hough" < though@cityofmorgantown.org >, "Ed Preston" < epreston@cityofmorgantown.org >, mwise@boparc.org , "Bill Austin" < baustin@labyrinth.net >, "Fouad N Shoukry" < fouad.n.shoukry@wv.gov >, "Richard Warner" < Richard.L.Warner@wv.gov >, "Perry J Keller" < Perry.J.Keller@wv.gov >, WSTAFFORD@wilbursmith.com , "Tom Arnold" < tarnold@cityofmorgantown.org >, Bruffy@busride.org Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 12:59:48 PM Subject: Re: Morgantown Bicycle Plan
Chris,
Thanks for pointing out the issue with color text and for off-line providing a superior solution. In the next version, we will replace the current table with the table attached to this message.
Frank D. Gmeindl Chairman, Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board LCI #1703 491 WilsonAvenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles
On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Christopher Fletcher wrote:
Mr. Gmeindl:
Good morning. I reviewed the document quickly and offer only one suggested modification. The table at the end of the document includes different color text. For document reproduction purposes, all text should be black as color text looses its intended effect when photocopied.
Respectfully,
Christopher M. Fletcher, AICP Director of Development Services
From: "Frank Gmeindl" < frank.gmeindl@comcast.net > To: "Terrence Moore" < tmoore@cityofmorgantown.org >, "Jeff Mikorski" < jmikorski@cityofmorgantown.org >, "Terry Hough" < though@cityofmorgantown.org >, "Ed Preston" < epreston@cityofmorgantown.org >, "Christopher Fletcher" < cfletcher@cityofmorgantown.org >, mwise@boparc.org , "Bill Austin" < baustin@labyrinth.net >, "Fouad N Shoukry" < fouad.n.shoukry@wv.gov >, "Richard Warner" < Richard.L.Warner@wv.gov >, "Perry J Keller" < Perry.J.Keller@wv.gov >, WSTAFFORD@wilbursmith.com , "Tom Arnold" < tarnold@cityofmorgantown.org >, Bruffy@busride.org Cc: "Bicycle Board" < bikeboard@cheat.org >, mmccabe@cityofmorgantown.org , "Wes Nugent" < wes@wnugent.com >, "Jaime Lewis" < j4im3s@gmail.com >, "david mckain" < david.mckain@gmail.com >, "Adam Henry" < Adam.Henry@mail.wvu.edu >, christophergluck@gmail.com , "Paul Steele" < psteel@access.k12.wv.us >, "Frank Gmeindl" < frank.gmeindl@comcast.net >, "Andrea Soccorsi" < Andrea.Soccorsi@Mail.WVU.edu >, "Barbara Shellito" < bshellito@cityofmorgantown.org >, "Christiaan Abildso" < Christiaan.Abildso@mail.wvu.edu >, "Ken Martis" < kmartis@wvu.edu >, "margaret Roberts" < Margaretormike@aol.com >, "Roy Nutter" < rnutter@wvu.edu > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 9:18:20 PM Subject: Fwd: Morgantown Bicycle Plan
Dear Public Officials and Traffic Commission members,
Please find attached, version 12 (MBPv12wchanges.docx) of the Morgantown Bicycle Plan. This version is a revision in response to comments from Ed Preston, Perry Keller, Bill Austin, Terrence Moore, Terry Hough and Chris Fletcher.
To make it easy for you to see what's different in this version from the previous version that you received, the attached file highlights the changes.
The next steps are to get the Traffic Commission's review and then to present it to City Council on January 31. To make the plan as good as possible, we remain open to comments and suggestions.
The versions of the plan, the comments that we receive and our responses to the comments can all be found at http://db.tt/Bse1rpGr . (When we received comments in MS Word or other editable format, our response to each comment appears within the document adjacent to the comment.)
Thank you for your diligence and generosity!
Frank D. Gmeindl Chairman, Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board LCI #1703 491 WilsonAvenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles
Begin forwarded message:
From: Frank Gmeindl < frank.gmeindl@comcast.net >
Date: November 13, 2011 9:23:26 PM EST
To: tmoore@cityofmorgantown.org , Jeff Mikorski < jmikorski@cityofmorgantown.org >, Terry Hough < though@cityofmorgantown.org >, Ed Preston < epreston@cityofmorgantown.org >, Christopher Fletcher < cfletcher@cityofmorgantown.org >, mwise@boparc.org , Bill Austin < baustin@labyrinth.net >, Fouad N Shoukry < fouad.n.shoukry@wv.gov >, Richard Warner < Richard.L.Warner@wv.gov >, Perry J Keller < Perry.J.Keller@wv.gov >, WSTAFFORD@wilbursmith.com
Cc: Bicycle Board < bikeboard@cheat.org >, Barbara Shellito < bshellito@cityofmorgantown.org >
Subject: Morgantown Bicycle Plan
Dear Public Officials,
I have added Perry Keller and Wes Stafford to the list of recipients of this message and am resending it to everyone so that you all know who's getting it. There are no other changes.
Frank
Dear Public Officials,
Please find attached, the first preliminary Morgantown Bicycle Plan developed by the Bicycle Board. Within the next few days, you will also receive a paper copy.
Please review the plan and give me your comments by December 7. We would like to include the plan in a February application to the League of American Bicyclists' for the Bicycle Friendly Community award.
Since you are a key stakeholder in the plan, we want you to make it your plan. We will revise it to address your comments. We will ask you to approve the revision before we release it to the public.
Please provide me your comments in whatever way is most convenient for you. You could open the attached MS Word document and mark it up using track changes and comments, or you could mark up the hard copy with pen and ink, or you could write your comments in an e-mail message, or you could simply tell me what you think.
If you would like to discuss the plan, please contact me at your earliest convenience.
Frank D. Gmeindl Chairman, Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board LCI #1703 491 WilsonAvenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles