This message was originally HTML formatted. View in a HTML capable client to see the original version.\r\n\r\nDerek,
I might be inclined to increase the shared lane markings to $40K. We put those other figures together in a hurried meeting and we may have come up short on some of the markings, plus you never know about labor overages,
I wouldn't worry about the seemingly large number of maps, that will last for a few years and they will go more quickly than you wold think. We might even be able to use some money for advertising the map to aid in its distribution and get people interested in commuting. Going to plastic for more durability might be good as well.
If you can run the bus stops past Dave Bruffy that might be good, as he has some idea as to the number of covered stops he already has and which might be best to add bike parking to.
Is Ryan going to work directly with BOPARC and have them as a sponsor? Make sure so we don't lose an opportunity.
Great job, from your emails, it sounds like you have a lot of other info collected which should make doing the final grants much easier when we have to provide more detailed cost info. Thanks for the enormous effort, your boss will probably be happy to get you back full time!
Chip
---- Original Message ---- From: "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com Sent: 12/11/2013 1:04:30 AM To: "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com, "Ryan Stocking" Ryan.Stocking@mail.wvu.edu, "David Bruffy" bruffy@busride.org, "Ella Belling" ella@montrails.org Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Board Projects and TAP funding
BB Members...
Can you please take a look at my estimates below for our TAP funding requests and give any feedback prior to my submittal to Jeff Mikorski, City Manager, and Mark Wise, BOPARC tomorrow? I plan to submit mid-morning to noon sometime depending on feedback. Projects had to range from $15,000 to $150,000 for the TAP (MAP-21) funding. I feel we've chosen some small, medium, and large dollar projects to try to maximize our chances of getting something funded. If our estimates looks accurate, I'll simply it for Jeff and Mark and send in so Jeff and Mark will have most of 3 business days to submit the Letters of Intent. I did my part while relying heavily on folks who had previously done their homework. Thanks for chiming in and helping Frank, Chip, David Bruffy, Ryan Stocking, Ella Belling, Mark Wise, Traci, Emily, and Damien. Great teamwork!
Priorities 7,8,11: Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs on all City and State maintained arterials that meet established criteria for installation
Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $35,000 Design and Construction Oversight Estimate: $7,000 City of Morgantown match: $1,400
Background: Based on 77 SLMs and 32 Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs, which were previously planned and mapped throughout Morgantown. This price was already estimated by the City Manager in 2005(?) I looked at today's retail values on the SLMs and signs and still looks like this number is appropriate with oversight and construction taken into account. If anyone thinks we should estimate a little higher (say $40K) let me know.
Priority 15: Print the established bicycle route map and classify all streets in terms of their bicycle friendliness
Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $15,000 Design and Production Estimate: $3,000 City of Morgantown match: $600
Background: Based on approx. 80,000 maps to be printed at 17"x24". Project actually came in around $13000, but the minimum to apply for under TAP funding is $15,000. I feel like 80,000 maps is an awful lot, but may be the only way to get to the $15,000 based on the price quote I saw. We might be able to print less and make a larger map or fancier design or perhaps a rainproof paper?
Priority 47: Covered bike parking at bus stops
Applicant: City of Morgantown (applicant recommended by David Bruffy, Mountainline Transit Authority) Total Project Costs: $80,400 Design and Construction Oversight: $16080 City of Morgantown match: $3216
Background: Number of locations: 12 Racks per location: 4 at $550/rack (for a total of 8 bikes per location) = $2200 Bike shelter: 4'x12' w/ shelter, concrete pad, and excavation = $4500
Shelter and 4 racks per site: $4500 + $2200 = $6700
$6700 x 12 locations = $80400 or $6700 x 18 locations = $120600
Should we be conservative? Or shoot for the moon with 18 sites?
New Priority not in plan: Trail project in Marilla Park
Applicant: BOPARC Total Project Costs: $20,000 Design and Construction Oversight: $4,000 BOPARC match: $800
Background: Ella Belling states that this project may be difficult or ineligible to obtain funding for due to ADA provisions that may have to be made for the trails to facilitate those with disabilities through gentler slopes, etc. Feasibility may be difficult, but she recommended looking into the Land and Water Conservation Fund for trailbuilding. Thanks, ~Derek
Good morning all, My thoughts- I thought the changes this year to the grants no longer allow the option of printing the trail maps. Are you considering this a “safety and education program?” I would like to know what you know because we also need rail-trail maps printed. I might put out the question to the funders.
On the “beginner course” at Marilla Park- Yes, Ryan is working with BOPARC as the sponsor on this grant. He has been given the “go” to at least put in the intent to apply and then there will need to be a presentation and approval from the BOPARC Board before submitting the grant. As Derek mentioned, not sure if it would meet ADA standards. RYAN- your status has changed on the BOPARC grant but it may only provide “view only” If this is the case, you can type up the answers and send to me to submit or we can try to get you to “edit” status.
DEREK- Greenmont Bridge intent is going in, though it still may be funded in this year’s grants.
MRTC, BOPARC, Morgantown and Star City are putting a lot in the mix for 2014! Ella
Ella Belling Executive Director Mon River Trails Conservancy P.O. Box 282 Morgantown, WV 26507 www.montrails.org 304-692-6782
On Dec 11, 2013, at 2:23 AM, Chip Wamsley Chip@wamsleycycles.com wrote:
Derek,
I might be inclined to increase the shared lane markings to $40K. We put those other figures together in a hurried meeting and we may have come up short on some of the markings, plus you never know about labor overages,
I wouldn't worry about the seemingly large number of maps, that will last for a few years and they will go more quickly than you wold think. We might even be able to use some money for advertising the map to aid in its distribution and get people interested in commuting. Going to plastic for more durability might be good as well.
If you can run the bus stops past Dave Bruffy that might be good, as he has some idea as to the number of covered stops he already has and which might be best to add bike parking to.
Is Ryan going to work directly with BOPARC and have them as a sponsor? Make sure so we don't lose an opportunity.
Great job, from your emails, it sounds like you have a lot of other info collected which should make doing the final grants much easier when we have to provide more detailed cost info. Thanks for the enormous effort, your boss will probably be happy to get you back full time!
Chip
---- Original Message ---- From: "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com Sent: 12/11/2013 1:04:30 AM To: "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com, "Ryan Stocking" Ryan.Stocking@mail.wvu.edu, "David Bruffy" bruffy@busride.org, "Ella Belling" ella@montrails.org Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Board Projects and TAP funding
BB Members...
Can you please take a look at my estimates below for our TAP funding requests and give any feedback prior to my submittal to Jeff Mikorski, City Manager, and Mark Wise, BOPARC tomorrow? I plan to submit mid-morning to noon sometime depending on feedback. Projects had to range from $15,000 to $150,000 for the TAP (MAP-21) funding. I feel we've chosen some small, medium, and large dollar projects to try to maximize our chances of getting something funded. If our estimates looks accurate, I'll simply it for Jeff and Mark and send in so Jeff and Mark will have most of 3 business days to submit the Letters of Intent. I did my part while relying heavily on folks who had previously done their homework. Thanks for chiming in and helping Frank, Chip, David Bruffy, Ryan Stocking, Ella Belling, Mark Wise, Traci, Emily, and Damien. Great teamwork!
Priorities 7,8,11: Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs on all City and State maintained arterials that meet established criteria for installation
Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $35,000 Design and Construction Oversight Estimate: $7,000 City of Morgantown match: $1,400
Background: Based on 77 SLMs and 32 Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs, which were previously planned and mapped throughout Morgantown. This price was already estimated by the City Manager in 2005(?) I looked at today's retail values on the SLMs and signs and still looks like this number is appropriate with oversight and construction taken into account. If anyone thinks we should estimate a little higher (say $40K) let me know.
Priority 15: Print the established bicycle route map and classify all streets in terms of their bicycle friendliness
Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $15,000 Design and Production Estimate: $3,000 City of Morgantown match: $600
Background: Based on approx. 80,000 maps to be printed at 17"x24". Project actually came in around $13000, but the minimum to apply for under TAP funding is $15,000. I feel like 80,000 maps is an awful lot, but may be the only way to get to the $15,000 based on the price quote I saw. We might be able to print less and make a larger map or fancier design or perhaps a rainproof paper?
Priority 47: Covered bike parking at bus stops
Applicant: City of Morgantown (applicant recommended by David Bruffy, Mountainline Transit Authority) Total Project Costs: $80,400 Design and Construction Oversight: $16080 City of Morgantown match: $3216
Background: Number of locations: 12 Racks per location: 4 at $550/rack (for a total of 8 bikes per location) = $2200 Bike shelter: 4'x12' w/ shelter, concrete pad, and excavation = $4500
Shelter and 4 racks per site: $4500 + $2200 = $6700
$6700 x 12 locations = $80400 or $6700 x 18 locations = $120600Should we be conservative? Or shoot for the moon with 18 sites?
New Priority not in plan: Trail project in Marilla Park
Applicant: BOPARC Total Project Costs: $20,000 Design and Construction Oversight: $4,000 BOPARC match: $800
Background: Ella Belling states that this project may be difficult or ineligible to obtain funding for due to ADA provisions that may have to be made for the trails to facilitate those with disabilities through gentler slopes, etc. Feasibility may be difficult, but she recommended looking into the Land and Water Conservation Fund for trailbuilding.
Thanks, ~Derek
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Chip Wamsley -
Ella Belling