Hi All,
Just saw a post about a Saris Rack drawing for schools that register for Bike to School Day on May 8th. Not sure if school is still in session then but if so, could be a good opportunity for South Middle to enter the drawing and potentially win a replacement for the rack. They have to register a bike to school day event by 3pm todayhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=591751750837216&set=a.170544472957948.44736.151368931542169&type=1to enter.
Register here: http://www.walkbiketoschool.org/
Can someone (Derek, Frank, Jonathan?) pass this info on to the South Middle Bike Club? Short timeframe but it's worth a shot.
Emily
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Jonathan Rosenbaum < jr@wvcompletestreets.org> wrote:
When Nick donated this bicycle rack last Fall, I think he was doing it on the assumption that it was required almost immediately, and that it would not be a permanent solution. Also, the PTO would work on details over time. As long as the school recognizes this is only a temporary solution until a more appropriate rack is found, I would say go for it. What I do not want to see happen is that this gets heavily publicized, and every school in the district begins installing toast racks as the standard parking solution. We are behind in just about everything in this state, let us not become behind in bicycle parking standards!
-Jonathan
On 03/11/2013 04:25 PM, Ryan Post wrote:
It looks like you could probably straddle the whole rack with a bike, and the wheel holder thingy would contact the crank arm or down tube. It's certainly not ideal, but it gets the job done.
Certainly would be nice to get a nice new 'perfect' rack in there, but if it were me, I'd be upset I didn't get to ride today...65degrees!?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Rosenbaum < jr@wvcompletestreets.org> wrote:
I am pretty sure everyone knows my stance about this rack. When I attended Suncrest Middle School I rode a bicycle that had thin tires so I would not have been happy with this gift from PS.
However, the reason why I correlated this subject with the Sarris Corral contest at the meeting this Thursday is because this could be a possible opportunity to photograph the toast rack onsite, not that I am advocating we go this route. This is a school that has not had bicycle parking in at least 50 years, so waiting a few more months to locate an appropriate rack would not necessarily be a bad approach. Ultimately, I think this should be Matt's choice, I could arrange to have him check the rack out at Positive Spin.
If he is fine with using this rack, we should make it happen.
-Jonathan
On 03/11/2013 12:11 PM, Jennifer Selin wrote:
I don't want to slow things up. Better to get one in place.
The donation idea was more useful if the rack was clearly inappropriate And we really needed a different one.
Jenny
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:03 PM, "Graber, Stephen" sggraber@hsc.wvu.edu wrote:
I recall there's some urgency in getting a rack installed so Matt can at least ride before he leaves Suncrest MS. The PS rack certainly isn't ideal but could be secured to the concreted with L-brackets. Even if left unsecured it's unlikely that anyone would be able to steal even one bike chained to the rack.
Let's get this rack over there and if Jenny/others can raise money for a better one, then as Emily points out the PS could be replaced- an opportunity for yet another bike recognition news item/ceremony.
Stephen G. Graber
Biochem & Mol Pharmacology
PO Box 9142, HSN-3122
West Virginia University
Morgantown, WV 26506-9142
phone: 304-293-2305
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*From:* bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [ bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com] On Behalf Of Emily Vasile [ emilyvasile@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 11, 2013 11:27 AM *To:* ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org *Cc:* Bike Board *Subject:* Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
Hi All-
My impression from the meeting on Thursday was Matt was supposed to facilitate the delivery of the Positive Spin rack to Suncrest Middle since it was his initiative to begin with. Frank was going to pass on Matt/ Jack's (his father) phone number to follow up with him.
It sounds like the PS rack is available and the Suncrest principal is OK with locating the rack there so we just need Matt to take the initiative. Then, if folks want to raise funds to get a more suitable rack installed later, it can be replaced.
Has anyone made headway on raising funds/ a plan for getting a different rack in place? If not, I'd suggest connecting Matt/ Jack with Damien to arrange delivery of the PS rack.
Emily
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Damien Davis < ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org> wrote:
All,
Do you want me to see about getting the Positive Spin bicycle rack delivered to Suncrest Middle or should I wait to see if you get enough donations to purchase a new one?
*J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM*
*Assistant****City** Engineer*
**City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown, WV26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
----- Original Message ----- From: Jennifer Selin jselin@hotmail.com To: ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org Cc: Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org, Bike Board < bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com>, Andrew Pathfinder < andrew.pathfinder@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:19:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
Let's select a rack we can be proud of, then ask around For donations, I'll kick in some and Ask some neighbors. Maybe ask some parents at the school to donate, put up a plaque..
How much do we need, which rack?
Jenny
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:04 AM, "Damien Davis" ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org wrote:
Jonathan,
Could you send me a couple pictures of the bike rack at Positive Spin for South Middle. I spoke with Principal Napolillo briefly this morning about getting the rack over to the school and want is going to need to be done once it is there. He had some questions that I couldn't answer since I've never seen the rack. Thanks.
*J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM*
*Assistant****City** Engineer*
**City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown, WV26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
*From: *"Jonathan Rosenbaum" jr@wvcompletestreets.org *To: *"Andrew Pathfinder" andrew.pathfinder@gmail.com *Cc: *"Bike Board" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com *Sent: *Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:20:04 PM *Subject: *Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
When it comes to rack design, I
advocate for the guidelines the ABPB recommends. There is a good
list at
http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/engineering/parking.cfmhttps://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?zAQSn7DC3rxEVd7bPOqbNI04gBoJo-k2cEeRU03DM8Ox_NB0zySNaOwhWPGFK_9II3DATbL3ztPp2hnO5tywn8lrxrW0Ex8HWE07ojGoxOVJdB-X1J5BNCWbXzypJAsr1vF6y0QJzcyLAaX50QKCy0pAlYQg0Lr5q6y3pCy0oIjHk-xKvxYY1NJASedK6zAQsLf8KcCNyjyR5X
:
support the frame of the bicycle and not just one wheel
allow the frame and one wheel to be locked to the rack when
both wheels are left on the bike - allow the frame and both wheels to be locked to the rack if the front wheel is removed - allow the use of either a cable or U-shaped lock - be securely anchored - be usable by bikes with no kickstand - be usable by bikes with water bottle cages - be usable by a wide variety of sizes and types of bicycleI will soon be taking action on getting the PS rack to Suncrest
Middle School. It was my Alma Mater, afterall, the one where I
was not allowed to park my bicycle. Matt's victory is
significant, emphasize that to Chelsea.
However, I would like well designed racks to be installed
because they encourage bicycle parking. Comb and toast racks
really aren't suitable for a school environment.
-Jonathan
On 03/07/2013 07:33 PM, Andrew Pathfinder wrote:
Choice number one. The Graber...yes Graber Mighty Mite 6 Bike Rack. This rack retails for $110 and could be anchored to the ground using a bracket or locked to a permanent fixture.
Option number two: Dero MR 12 Rack. This rack is more substantial and would hold 12 bicycles and would be easier to bolt to the ground. Price would be $400.
I would be interested to see if budget dollars could be used for this purpose and or would also be interested in helping put a citizen pool to get one of these racks installed at the school.
There are other options but these two give a good idea of a basic and nicer version of the rack debate.
Thanks,
Andrew
Andrew R. Walker
Pathfinder of West Virginia
235 High Street
Morgantown Wv 26505 (304)296-0076
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Mark,
Sorry for late notice. Must respond by 3 pm TODAY. South can win a bike rack. See below.
Frank
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From: Emily Vasile emilyvasile@gmail.com Date: April 3, 2013 10:06:33 AM EDT To: Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org Cc: Bike Board bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
Hi All,
Just saw a post about a Saris Rack drawing for schools that register for Bike to School Day on May 8th. Not sure if school is still in session then but if so, could be a good opportunity for South Middle to enter the drawing and potentially win a replacement for the rack. They have to register a bike to school day event by 3pm today to enter.
Register here: http://www.walkbiketoschool.org/
Can someone (Derek, Frank, Jonathan?) pass this info on to the South Middle Bike Club? Short timeframe but it's worth a shot.
Emily
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org wrote: When Nick donated this bicycle rack last Fall, I think he was doing it on the assumption that it was required almost immediately, and that it would not be a permanent solution. Also, the PTO would work on details over time. As long as the school recognizes this is only a temporary solution until a more appropriate rack is found, I would say go for it. What I do not want to see happen is that this gets heavily publicized, and every school in the district begins installing toast racks as the standard parking solution. We are behind in just about everything in this state, let us not become behind in bicycle parking standards!
-Jonathan
On 03/11/2013 04:25 PM, Ryan Post wrote:
It looks like you could probably straddle the whole rack with a bike, and the wheel holder thingy would contact the crank arm or down tube. It's certainly not ideal, but it gets the job done.
Certainly would be nice to get a nice new 'perfect' rack in there, but if it were me, I'd be upset I didn't get to ride today...65degrees!?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org wrote: I am pretty sure everyone knows my stance about this rack. When I attended Suncrest Middle School I rode a bicycle that had thin tires so I would not have been happy with this gift from PS.
However, the reason why I correlated this subject with the Sarris Corral contest at the meeting this Thursday is because this could be a possible opportunity to photograph the toast rack onsite, not that I am advocating we go this route. This is a school that has not had bicycle parking in at least 50 years, so waiting a few more months to locate an appropriate rack would not necessarily be a bad approach. Ultimately, I think this should be Matt's choice, I could arrange to have him check the rack out at Positive Spin.
If he is fine with using this rack, we should make it happen.
-Jonathan
On 03/11/2013 12:11 PM, Jennifer Selin wrote:
I don't want to slow things up. Better to get one in place.
The donation idea was more useful if the rack was clearly inappropriate And we really needed a different one.
Jenny
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:03 PM, "Graber, Stephen" sggraber@hsc.wvu.edu wrote:
I recall there's some urgency in getting a rack installed so Matt can at least ride before he leaves Suncrest MS. The PS rack certainly isn't ideal but could be secured to the concreted with L-brackets. Even if left unsecured it's unlikely that anyone would be able to steal even one bike chained to the rack.
Let's get this rack over there and if Jenny/others can raise money for a better one, then as Emily points out the PS could be replaced- an opportunity for yet another bike recognition news item/ceremony.
Stephen G. Graber
Biochem & Mol Pharmacology
PO Box 9142, HSN-3122
West Virginia University
Morgantown, WV 26506-9142
phone: 304-293-2305
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From: bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com] On Behalf Of Emily Vasile [emilyvasile@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:27 AM To: ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org Cc: Bike Board Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
Hi All-
My impression from the meeting on Thursday was Matt was supposed to facilitate the delivery of the Positive Spin rack to Suncrest Middle since it was his initiative to begin with. Frank was going to pass on Matt/ Jack's (his father) phone number to follow up with him.
It sounds like the PS rack is available and the Suncrest principal is OK with locating the rack there so we just need Matt to take the initiative. Then, if folks want to raise funds to get a more suitable rack installed later, it can be replaced.
Has anyone made headway on raising funds/ a plan for getting a different rack in place? If not, I'd suggest connecting Matt/ Jack with Damien to arrange delivery of the PS rack.
Emily
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Damien Davis ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org wrote: All,
Do you want me to see about getting the Positive Spin bicycle rack delivered to Suncrest Middle or should I wait to see if you get enough donations to purchase a new one?
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
AssistantCity Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown, WV26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
www.MorgantownWV.gov
----- Original Message ----- From: Jennifer Selin jselin@hotmail.com To: ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org Cc: Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org, Bike Board bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com, Andrew Pathfinder andrew.pathfinder@gmail.com Sent: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:19:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
Let's select a rack we can be proud of, then ask around For donations, I'll kick in some and Ask some neighbors. Maybe ask some parents at the school to donate, put up a plaque..
How much do we need, which rack?
Jenny
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:04 AM, "Damien Davis" ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org wrote:
Jonathan,
Could you send me a couple pictures of the bike rack at Positive Spin for South Middle. I spoke with Principal Napolillo briefly this morning about getting the rack over to the school and want is going to need to be done once it is there. He had some questions that I couldn't answer since I've never seen the rack. Thanks.
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
AssistantCity Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown, WV26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
www.MorgantownWV.gov
From: "Jonathan Rosenbaum" jr@wvcompletestreets.org To: "Andrew Pathfinder" andrew.pathfinder@gmail.com Cc: "Bike Board" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:20:04 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
When it comes to rack design, I
advocate for the guidelines the ABPB recommends. There is a good
list at
http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/engineering/parking.cfm
: support the frame of the bicycle and not just one wheel
allow the frame and one wheel to be locked to the rack when
both wheels are left on the bike
allow the frame and both wheels to be locked to the rack if
the front wheel is removed
allow the use of either a cable or U-shaped lock
be securely anchored
be usable by bikes with no kickstand
be usable by bikes with water bottle cages
be usable by a wide variety of sizes and types of bicycle I will soon be taking action on getting the PS rack to Suncrest
Middle School. It was my Alma Mater, afterall, the one where I
was not allowed to park my bicycle. Matt's victory is
significant, emphasize that to Chelsea. However, I would like well designed racks to be installed
because they encourage bicycle parking. Comb and toast racks
really aren't suitable for a school environment.
-Jonathan
On 03/07/2013 07:33 PM, Andrew Pathfinder wrote: Choice number one. The Graber...yes Graber Mighty Mite 6 Bike Rack. This rack retails for $110 and could be anchored to the ground using a bracket or locked to a permanent fixture.
Option number two: Dero MR 12 Rack. This rack is more substantial and would hold 12 bicycles and would be easier to bolt to the ground. Price would be $400.
I would be interested to see if budget dollars could be used for this purpose and or would also be interested in helping put a citizen pool to get one of these racks installed at the school.
There are other options but these two give a good idea of a basic and nicer version of the rack debate.
Thanks,
Andrew
Andrew R. Walker
Pathfinder of West Virginia
235 High Street
Morgantown Wv 26505
(304)296-0076
Bikeboard mailing list
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Nice info, but a couple itmes-
Suncrest Middle school is the one w/ the "new" rack from Positive Spin. South Middle school is the school that has a bike club, sponsored by Mark Thorne.
Clear as mud.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Emily Vasile emilyvasile@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
Just saw a post about a Saris Rack drawing for schools that register for Bike to School Day on May 8th. Not sure if school is still in session then but if so, could be a good opportunity for South Middle to enter the drawing and potentially win a replacement for the rack. They have to register a bike to school day event by 3pm today to enter.
Register here: http://www.walkbiketoschool.org/
Can someone (Derek, Frank, Jonathan?) pass this info on to the South Middle Bike Club? Short timeframe but it's worth a shot.
Emily
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org wrote:
When Nick donated this bicycle rack last Fall, I think he was doing it on the assumption that it was required almost immediately, and that it would not be a permanent solution. Also, the PTO would work on details over time. As long as the school recognizes this is only a temporary solution until a more appropriate rack is found, I would say go for it. What I do not want to see happen is that this gets heavily publicized, and every school in the district begins installing toast racks as the standard parking solution. We are behind in just about everything in this state, let us not become behind in bicycle parking standards!
-Jonathan
On 03/11/2013 04:25 PM, Ryan Post wrote:
It looks like you could probably straddle the whole rack with a bike, and the wheel holder thingy would contact the crank arm or down tube. It's certainly not ideal, but it gets the job done.
Certainly would be nice to get a nice new 'perfect' rack in there, but if it were me, I'd be upset I didn't get to ride today...65degrees!?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org wrote:
I am pretty sure everyone knows my stance about this rack. When I attended Suncrest Middle School I rode a bicycle that had thin tires so I would not have been happy with this gift from PS.
However, the reason why I correlated this subject with the Sarris Corral contest at the meeting this Thursday is because this could be a possible opportunity to photograph the toast rack onsite, not that I am advocating we go this route. This is a school that has not had bicycle parking in at least 50 years, so waiting a few more months to locate an appropriate rack would not necessarily be a bad approach. Ultimately, I think this should be Matt's choice, I could arrange to have him check the rack out at Positive Spin.
If he is fine with using this rack, we should make it happen.
-Jonathan
On 03/11/2013 12:11 PM, Jennifer Selin wrote:
I don't want to slow things up. Better to get one in place.
The donation idea was more useful if the rack was clearly inappropriate And we really needed a different one.
Jenny
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:03 PM, "Graber, Stephen" sggraber@hsc.wvu.edu wrote:
I recall there's some urgency in getting a rack installed so Matt can at least ride before he leaves Suncrest MS. The PS rack certainly isn't ideal but could be secured to the concreted with L-brackets. Even if left unsecured it's unlikely that anyone would be able to steal even one bike chained to the rack.
Let's get this rack over there and if Jenny/others can raise money for a better one, then as Emily points out the PS could be replaced- an opportunity for yet another bike recognition news item/ceremony.
Stephen G. Graber
Biochem & Mol Pharmacology
PO Box 9142, HSN-3122
West Virginia University
Morgantown, WV 26506-9142
phone: 304-293-2305
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From: bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com] On Behalf Of Emily Vasile [emilyvasile@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:27 AM To: ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org Cc: Bike Board Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
Hi All-
My impression from the meeting on Thursday was Matt was supposed to facilitate the delivery of the Positive Spin rack to Suncrest Middle since it was his initiative to begin with. Frank was going to pass on Matt/ Jack's (his father) phone number to follow up with him.
It sounds like the PS rack is available and the Suncrest principal is OK with locating the rack there so we just need Matt to take the initiative. Then, if folks want to raise funds to get a more suitable rack installed later, it can be replaced.
Has anyone made headway on raising funds/ a plan for getting a different rack in place? If not, I'd suggest connecting Matt/ Jack with Damien to arrange delivery of the PS rack.
Emily
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Damien Davis ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org wrote:
All,
Do you want me to see about getting the Positive Spin bicycle rack delivered to Suncrest Middle or should I wait to see if you get enough donations to purchase a new one?
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
AssistantCity Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown, WV26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
www.MorgantownWV.gov
----- Original Message ----- From: Jennifer Selin jselin@hotmail.com To: ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org Cc: Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org, Bike Board bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com, Andrew Pathfinder andrew.pathfinder@gmail.com Sent: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:19:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
Let's select a rack we can be proud of, then ask around For donations, I'll kick in some and Ask some neighbors. Maybe ask some parents at the school to donate, put up a plaque..
How much do we need, which rack?
Jenny
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:04 AM, "Damien Davis" ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org wrote:
Jonathan,
Could you send me a couple pictures of the bike rack at Positive Spin for South Middle. I spoke with Principal Napolillo briefly this morning about getting the rack over to the school and want is going to need to be done once it is there. He had some questions that I couldn't answer since I've never seen the rack. Thanks.
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
AssistantCity Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown, WV26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
www.MorgantownWV.gov
From: "Jonathan Rosenbaum" jr@wvcompletestreets.org To: "Andrew Pathfinder" andrew.pathfinder@gmail.com Cc: "Bike Board" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:20:04 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
When it comes to rack design, I
advocate for the guidelines the ABPB recommends. There is a good
list at
http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/engineering/parking.cfm
:
support the frame of the bicycle and not just one wheel
allow the frame and one wheel to be locked to the rack when
both wheels are left on the bike
allow the frame and both wheels to be locked to the rack if
the front wheel is removed
allow the use of either a cable or U-shaped lock
be securely anchored
be usable by bikes with no kickstand
be usable by bikes with water bottle cages
be usable by a wide variety of sizes and types of bicycle
I will soon be taking action on getting the PS rack to Suncrest
Middle School. It was my Alma Mater, afterall, the one where I
was not allowed to park my bicycle. Matt's victory is
significant, emphasize that to Chelsea.
However, I would like well designed racks to be installed
because they encourage bicycle parking. Comb and toast racks
really aren't suitable for a school environment.
-Jonathan
On 03/07/2013 07:33 PM, Andrew Pathfinder wrote:
Choice number one. The Graber...yes Graber Mighty Mite 6 Bike Rack. This rack retails for $110 and could be anchored to the ground using a bracket or locked to a permanent fixture.
Option number two: Dero MR 12 Rack. This rack is more substantial and would hold 12 bicycles and would be easier to bolt to the ground. Price would be $400.
I would be interested to see if budget dollars could be used for this purpose and or would also be interested in helping put a citizen pool to get one of these racks installed at the school.
There are other options but these two give a good idea of a basic and nicer version of the rack debate.
Thanks,
Andrew
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Everyone,
I am greatly impressed by what Mark Wm. Thorne has accomplished with the South Middle Bike Club, nearly 50 members! It was fun hanging out with him and some of the other parents/teachers at the historic free valet parking service at SWITCH.
The one caveat is that the vast majority of cyclists who attend the school live too far away to bicycle to school on a regular basis, one of the sad after effects of consolidation, but they are allowed to park their bicycles in a school room! Mark, himself, lives in Preston County.
-Jonathan
On 04/03/2013 10:56 AM, Gunnar Shogren wrote:
Nice info, but a couple itmes-
Suncrest Middle school is the one w/ the "new" rack from Positive Spin. South Middle school is the school that has a bike club, sponsored by Mark Thorne.
Clear as mud.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Emily Vasile emilyvasile@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
Just saw a post about a Saris Rack drawing for schools that register for Bike to School Day on May 8th. Not sure if school is still in session then but if so, could be a good opportunity for South Middle to enter the drawing and potentially win a replacement for the rack. They have to register a bike to school day event by 3pm today to enter.
Register here: http://www.walkbiketoschool.org/
Can someone (Derek, Frank, Jonathan?) pass this info on to the South Middle Bike Club? Short timeframe but it's worth a shot.
Emily
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org wrote:
When Nick donated this bicycle rack last Fall, I think he was doing it on the assumption that it was required almost immediately, and that it would not be a permanent solution. Also, the PTO would work on details over time. As long as the school recognizes this is only a temporary solution until a more appropriate rack is found, I would say go for it. What I do not want to see happen is that this gets heavily publicized, and every school in the district begins installing toast racks as the standard parking solution. We are behind in just about everything in this state, let us not become behind in bicycle parking standards!
-Jonathan
On 03/11/2013 04:25 PM, Ryan Post wrote:
It looks like you could probably straddle the whole rack with a bike, and the wheel holder thingy would contact the crank arm or down tube. It's certainly not ideal, but it gets the job done.
Certainly would be nice to get a nice new 'perfect' rack in there, but if it were me, I'd be upset I didn't get to ride today...65degrees!?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org wrote:
I am pretty sure everyone knows my stance about this rack. When I attended Suncrest Middle School I rode a bicycle that had thin tires so I would not have been happy with this gift from PS.
However, the reason why I correlated this subject with the Sarris Corral contest at the meeting this Thursday is because this could be a possible opportunity to photograph the toast rack onsite, not that I am advocating we go this route. This is a school that has not had bicycle parking in at least 50 years, so waiting a few more months to locate an appropriate rack would not necessarily be a bad approach. Ultimately, I think this should be Matt's choice, I could arrange to have him check the rack out at Positive Spin.
If he is fine with using this rack, we should make it happen.
-Jonathan
On 03/11/2013 12:11 PM, Jennifer Selin wrote:
I don't want to slow things up. Better to get one in place.
The donation idea was more useful if the rack was clearly inappropriate And we really needed a different one.
Jenny
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On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:03 PM, "Graber, Stephen" sggraber@hsc.wvu.edu wrote:
I recall there's some urgency in getting a rack installed so Matt can at least ride before he leaves Suncrest MS. The PS rack certainly isn't ideal but could be secured to the concreted with L-brackets. Even if left unsecured it's unlikely that anyone would be able to steal even one bike chained to the rack.
Let's get this rack over there and if Jenny/others can raise money for a better one, then as Emily points out the PS could be replaced- an opportunity for yet another bike recognition news item/ceremony.
Stephen G. Graber
Biochem & Mol Pharmacology
PO Box 9142, HSN-3122
West Virginia University
Morgantown, WV 26506-9142
phone: 304-293-2305
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From: bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com] On Behalf Of Emily Vasile [emilyvasile@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:27 AM To: ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org Cc: Bike Board Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
Hi All-
My impression from the meeting on Thursday was Matt was supposed to facilitate the delivery of the Positive Spin rack to Suncrest Middle since it was his initiative to begin with. Frank was going to pass on Matt/ Jack's (his father) phone number to follow up with him.
It sounds like the PS rack is available and the Suncrest principal is OK with locating the rack there so we just need Matt to take the initiative. Then, if folks want to raise funds to get a more suitable rack installed later, it can be replaced.
Has anyone made headway on raising funds/ a plan for getting a different rack in place? If not, I'd suggest connecting Matt/ Jack with Damien to arrange delivery of the PS rack.
Emily
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Damien Davis ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org wrote:
All,
Do you want me to see about getting the Positive Spin bicycle rack delivered to Suncrest Middle or should I wait to see if you get enough donations to purchase a new one?
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
AssistantCity Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown, WV26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
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----- Original Message ----- From: Jennifer Selin jselin@hotmail.com To: ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org Cc: Jonathan Rosenbaum jr@wvcompletestreets.org, Bike Board bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com, Andrew Pathfinder andrew.pathfinder@gmail.com Sent: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:19:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
Let's select a rack we can be proud of, then ask around For donations, I'll kick in some and Ask some neighbors. Maybe ask some parents at the school to donate, put up a plaque..
How much do we need, which rack?
Jenny
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On Mar 8, 2013, at 9:04 AM, "Damien Davis" ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org wrote:
Jonathan,
Could you send me a couple pictures of the bike rack at Positive Spin for South Middle. I spoke with Principal Napolillo briefly this morning about getting the rack over to the school and want is going to need to be done once it is there. He had some questions that I couldn't answer since I've never seen the rack. Thanks.
J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM
AssistantCity Engineer
City of Morgantown
Public Works Department - Engineering Division
389 Spruce Street
Morgantown, WV26505
Office: 304.284.7398
Fax: 304.284.7409
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From: "Jonathan Rosenbaum" jr@wvcompletestreets.org To: "Andrew Pathfinder" andrew.pathfinder@gmail.com Cc: "Bike Board" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:20:04 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Racks at Schools
When it comes to rack design, I
advocate for the guidelines the ABPB recommends. There is a good
list at
http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/engineering/parking.cfm
:
support the frame of the bicycle and not just one wheel
allow the frame and one wheel to be locked to the rack when
both wheels are left on the bike
allow the frame and both wheels to be locked to the rack if
the front wheel is removed
allow the use of either a cable or U-shaped lock
be securely anchored
be usable by bikes with no kickstand
be usable by bikes with water bottle cages
be usable by a wide variety of sizes and types of bicycle
I will soon be taking action on getting the PS rack to Suncrest
Middle School. It was my Alma Mater, afterall, the one where I
was not allowed to park my bicycle. Matt's victory is
significant, emphasize that to Chelsea.
However, I would like well designed racks to be installed
because they encourage bicycle parking. Comb and toast racks
really aren't suitable for a school environment.
-Jonathan
On 03/07/2013 07:33 PM, Andrew Pathfinder wrote:
Choice number one. The Graber...yes Graber Mighty Mite 6 Bike Rack. This rack retails for $110 and could be anchored to the ground using a bracket or locked to a permanent fixture.
Option number two: Dero MR 12 Rack. This rack is more substantial and would hold 12 bicycles and would be easier to bolt to the ground. Price would be $400.
I would be interested to see if budget dollars could be used for this purpose and or would also be interested in helping put a citizen pool to get one of these racks installed at the school.
There are other options but these two give a good idea of a basic and nicer version of the rack debate.
Thanks,
Andrew
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