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Chip
---- Original Message ---- From: "Jing Zhang" tranplan@labyrinth.net Sent: 10/23/2014 7:47:27 AM To: "'Jennifer'" jselin@hotmail.com, "'Derek Springston'" dspringston@gmail.com Cc: "'Bike Board - Morgantown'" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com, "'Frank Gmeindl'" fgmeindl@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Lets schedule a time to meet! Propose: the Thursday of the first week in November (Nov. 6th)?
Jing
From: bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:11 PM To: Derek Springston Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown; Frank Gmeindl Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
I appreciate all of the work that has been done over the past several years. Here we are where we are and we have support for bicycle initiatives, we have had changes in administrative staff. It still takes time to put items in place, but if we don't push, we don't make progress.
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jennifer" jselin@hotmail.com wrote:
Somewhere in here we do need some visible projects. Could use bike board help!
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:19 AM, "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com wrote:
Frank, Thanks for the update. It would be exciting to see a climbing lane there. I would use it just the same or almost the same whether they put a lane in there or not, but I think it would provide some more 'visible' infrastructure to encourage folks to bike. With the time it's taken or taking, it feels like a failed project to me, and I hate to feel like giving up, but at this point, it makes me feel like questioning whether that project was a valuable use of time spent over the last several years. I'm not necessarily talking about my time, but all involved.
However, if we're almost to realizing it's implementation, it will be valuable to finish. I know I haven't been super involved with the Bike Board as of late since my priorities are my family and kids right now, especially with a 2 month old, but I'll be back in the loop again, especially IF we land that WVDOH Transportation Alternatives grant.
Have a nice day. I appreciate the update.
~Derek
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Last night, City Council unanimously approved the first reading of the ordinance that will authorize the MOU between the City, WVDOH and WVU to get the climbing lane installed.
Considering that it took 2 years from the time we proposed the climbing lane for the City to convene a meeting with all the stakeholders and then 3 more years from the time these 3 parties met and reached a vocal agreement to write the MOU which is substantively identical to that which was agreed, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the MOU to actually get signed by the 3 parties and then implemented by them.
Jenny Selin raised a good point during the bike lane discussion at last night's meeting. She observed that the surface of the shoulder where the bike lane is supposed to go is poor and needs some real pavement before money's wasted striping, marking and signing it. Jeff Mikorski responded that WVDOH is responsible for paving Mon Blvd. but was not aware that WVDOH has any plans to repave it or the shoulder. He said that he hoped the City could work with WVDOH to get them to repave the shoulder if they had funds for it. Mike Fike also questioned who will keep the climbing lane clean. Jeff responded that both the WVDOH and the City sweep the shoulder.
So, you can see that the obstacles this project still needs to overcome are not unlike the glass, rocks, snow, ice and other debris that those of us that ride up Mon Blvd. must get around or over. It would be interesting to compare this project's history with that of the Evansdale Drive relocation and creation of a roadway through the Arboretum.
Frank
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
Begin forwarded message:
From: Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com
Subject: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Date: October 21, 2014 2:52:52 PM EDT
To: Bike Board - Morgantown bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com
Tonight's City Council meeting agenda item #10:
Consideration of APPROVAL of FIRST READING of AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF MORGANTOWN AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN IT AND THE WV DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DIVISION OF HIGHWAYS, FOR INSTALLATION OF A BICYCLE LANE ALONG NORTHBOUND U.S. 19(MONONGAHELA BOULEVARD), BETWEEN EIGHTH STREET AND EVANSDALE DRIVE.
See p. 60 -61 (approximately half way through the packet) at http://www.morgantownwv.gov/wp-content/uploads/City-Council-Packet.pdf for the actual MOU. (Sorry, I couldn't cut-and-paste it legibly here.)
You could attend the meeting in City Hall or watch it live on TV.
Frank
_______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
--
Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha
Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race. -H.G. Wells Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. -John F. Kennedy
_______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
Works for me.
Frank Those that say, "It can't be done" should not stand in the way of those that are doing it
On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "Chip Wamsley" chip@wamsleycycles.com wrote:
That works for me.
Chip
---- Original Message ---- From: "Jing Zhang" tranplan@labyrinth.net Sent: 10/23/2014 7:47:27 AM To: "'Jennifer'" jselin@hotmail.com, "'Derek Springston'" dspringston@gmail.com Cc: "'Bike Board - Morgantown'" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com, "'Frank Gmeindl'" fgmeindl@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Let’s schedule a time to meet! Propose: the Thursday of the first week in November (Nov. 6th)?
Jing
From: bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:11 PM To: Derek Springston Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown; Frank Gmeindl Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
I appreciate all of the work that has been done over the past several years. Here we are where we are and we have support for bicycle initiatives, we have had changes in administrative staff. It still takes time to put items in place, but if we don't push, we don't make progress.
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jennifer" jselin@hotmail.com wrote:
Somewhere in here we do need some visible projects. Could use bike board help!
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:19 AM, "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com wrote:
Frank, Thanks for the update. It would be exciting to see a climbing lane there. I would use it just the same or almost the same whether they put a lane in there or not, but I think it would provide some more 'visible' infrastructure to encourage folks to bike. With the time it's taken or taking, it feels like a failed project to me, and I hate to feel like giving up, but at this point, it makes me feel like questioning whether that project was a valuable use of time spent over the last several years. I'm not necessarily talking about my time, but all involved.
However, if we're almost to realizing it's implementation, it will be valuable to finish. I know I haven't been super involved with the Bike Board as of late since my priorities are my family and kids right now, especially with a 2 month old, but I'll be back in the loop again, especially IF we land that WVDOH Transportation Alternatives grant.
Have a nice day. I appreciate the update.
~Derek
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Last night, City Council unanimously approved the first reading of the ordinance that will authorize the MOU between the City, WVDOH and WVU to get the climbing lane installed.
Considering that it took 2 years from the time we proposed the climbing lane for the City to convene a meeting with all the stakeholders and then 3 more years from the time these 3 parties met and reached a vocal agreement to write the MOU which is substantively identical to that which was agreed, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the MOU to actually get signed by the 3 parties and then implemented by them.
Jenny Selin raised a good point during the bike lane discussion at last night's meeting. She observed that the surface of the shoulder where the bike lane is supposed to go is poor and needs some real pavement before money's wasted striping, marking and signing it. Jeff Mikorski responded that WVDOH is responsible for paving Mon Blvd. but was not aware that WVDOH has any plans to repave it or the shoulder. He said that he hoped the City could work with WVDOH to get them to repave the shoulder if they had funds for it. Mike Fike also questioned who will keep the climbing lane clean. Jeff responded that both the WVDOH and the City sweep the shoulder.
So, you can see that the obstacles this project still needs to overcome are not unlike the glass, rocks, snow, ice and other debris that those of us that ride up Mon Blvd. must get around or over. It would be interesting to compare this project's history with that of the Evansdale Drive relocation and creation of a roadway through the Arboretum.
Frank
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
Begin forwarded message:
From: Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com
Subject: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Date: October 21, 2014 2:52:52 PM EDT
To: Bike Board - Morgantown bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com
Tonight's City Council meeting agenda item #10:
Consideration of APPROVAL of FIRST READING of AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF MORGANTOWN AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN IT AND THE WV DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DIVISION OF HIGHWAYS, FOR INSTALLATION OF A BICYCLE LANE ALONG NORTHBOUND U.S. 19(MONONGAHELA BOULEVARD), BETWEEN EIGHTH STREET AND EVANSDALE DRIVE.
See p. 60 -61 (approximately half way through the packet) at http://www.morgantownwv.gov/wp-content/uploads/City-Council-Packet.pdf for the actual MOU. (Sorry, I couldn't cut-and-paste it legibly here.)
You could attend the meeting in City Hall or watch it live on TV.
Frank
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
--
Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha
“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells “Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride.” -John F. Kennedy
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
What Time?
Jenny Selin Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:03 AM, "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Works for me.
Frank Those that say, "It can't be done" should not stand in the way of those that are doing it
On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "Chip Wamsley" chip@wamsleycycles.com wrote:
That works for me.
Chip
---- Original Message ---- From: "Jing Zhang" tranplan@labyrinth.net Sent: 10/23/2014 7:47:27 AM To: "'Jennifer'" jselin@hotmail.com, "'Derek Springston'" dspringston@gmail.com Cc: "'Bike Board - Morgantown'" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com, "'Frank Gmeindl'" fgmeindl@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Let’s schedule a time to meet! Propose: the Thursday of the first week in November (Nov. 6th)?
Jing
From: bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:11 PM To: Derek Springston Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown; Frank Gmeindl Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
I appreciate all of the work that has been done over the past several years. Here we are where we are and we have support for bicycle initiatives, we have had changes in administrative staff. It still takes time to put items in place, but if we don't push, we don't make progress.
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jennifer" jselin@hotmail.com wrote:
Somewhere in here we do need some visible projects. Could use bike board help!
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:19 AM, "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com wrote:
Frank, Thanks for the update. It would be exciting to see a climbing lane there. I would use it just the same or almost the same whether they put a lane in there or not, but I think it would provide some more 'visible' infrastructure to encourage folks to bike. With the time it's taken or taking, it feels like a failed project to me, and I hate to feel like giving up, but at this point, it makes me feel like questioning whether that project was a valuable use of time spent over the last several years. I'm not necessarily talking about my time, but all involved.
However, if we're almost to realizing it's implementation, it will be valuable to finish. I know I haven't been super involved with the Bike Board as of late since my priorities are my family and kids right now, especially with a 2 month old, but I'll be back in the loop again, especially IF we land that WVDOH Transportation Alternatives grant.
Have a nice day. I appreciate the update.
~Derek
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Last night, City Council unanimously approved the first reading of the ordinance that will authorize the MOU between the City, WVDOH and WVU to get the climbing lane installed.
Considering that it took 2 years from the time we proposed the climbing lane for the City to convene a meeting with all the stakeholders and then 3 more years from the time these 3 parties met and reached a vocal agreement to write the MOU which is substantively identical to that which was agreed, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the MOU to actually get signed by the 3 parties and then implemented by them.
Jenny Selin raised a good point during the bike lane discussion at last night's meeting. She observed that the surface of the shoulder where the bike lane is supposed to go is poor and needs some real pavement before money's wasted striping, marking and signing it. Jeff Mikorski responded that WVDOH is responsible for paving Mon Blvd. but was not aware that WVDOH has any plans to repave it or the shoulder. He said that he hoped the City could work with WVDOH to get them to repave the shoulder if they had funds for it. Mike Fike also questioned who will keep the climbing lane clean. Jeff responded that both the WVDOH and the City sweep the shoulder.
So, you can see that the obstacles this project still needs to overcome are not unlike the glass, rocks, snow, ice and other debris that those of us that ride up Mon Blvd. must get around or over. It would be interesting to compare this project's history with that of the Evansdale Drive relocation and creation of a roadway through the Arboretum.
Frank
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
Begin forwarded message:
From: Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com
Subject: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Date: October 21, 2014 2:52:52 PM EDT
To: Bike Board - Morgantown bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com
Tonight's City Council meeting agenda item #10:
Consideration of APPROVAL of FIRST READING of AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF MORGANTOWN AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN IT AND THE WV DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DIVISION OF HIGHWAYS, FOR INSTALLATION OF A BICYCLE LANE ALONG NORTHBOUND U.S. 19(MONONGAHELA BOULEVARD), BETWEEN EIGHTH STREET AND EVANSDALE DRIVE.
See p. 60 -61 (approximately half way through the packet) at http://www.morgantownwv.gov/wp-content/uploads/City-Council-Packet.pdf for the actual MOU. (Sorry, I couldn't cut-and-paste it legibly here.)
You could attend the meeting in City Hall or watch it live on TV.
Frank
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
--
Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha
“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells “Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride.” -John F. Kennedy
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
As usual, 6:30PM – 8:30PM?
From: Jennifer [mailto:jselin@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 1:55 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Chip Wamsley; Jing Zhang; Derek Springston; Bike Board - Morgantown Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
What Time?
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:03 AM, "Frank Gmeindl" <fgmeindl@gmail.com mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com > wrote:
Works for me.
Frank
Those that say, "It can't be done" should not stand in the way of those that are doing it
On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "Chip Wamsley" <chip@wamsleycycles.com mailto:chip@wamsleycycles.com > wrote:
That works for me.
Chip
---- Original Message ---- From: "Jing Zhang" <tranplan@labyrinth.net mailto:tranplan@labyrinth.net > Sent: 10/23/2014 7:47:27 AM To: "'Jennifer'" <jselin@hotmail.com mailto:jselin@hotmail.com >, "'Derek Springston'" <dspringston@gmail.com mailto:dspringston@gmail.com > Cc: "'Bike Board - Morgantown'" <bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com mailto:bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com >, "'Frank Gmeindl'" <fgmeindl@gmail.com mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Let’s schedule a time to meet! Propose: the Thursday of the first week in November (Nov. 6th)?
Jing
From: bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com mailto:bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com mailto:bounces@bikemorgantown.com ] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:11 PM To: Derek Springston Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown; Frank Gmeindl Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
I appreciate all of the work that has been done over the past several years. Here we are where we are and we have support for bicycle initiatives, we have had changes in administrative staff. It still takes time to put items in place, but if we don't push, we don't make progress.
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jennifer" <jselin@hotmail.com mailto:jselin@hotmail.com > wrote:
Somewhere in here we do need some visible projects. Could use bike board help!
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:19 AM, "Derek Springston" <dspringston@gmail.com mailto:dspringston@gmail.com > wrote:
Frank, Thanks for the update. It would be exciting to see a climbing lane there. I would use it just the same or almost the same whether they put a lane in there or not, but I think it would provide some more 'visible' infrastructure to encourage folks to bike. With the time it's taken or taking, it feels like a failed project to me, and I hate to feel like giving up, but at this point, it makes me feel like questioning whether that project was a valuable use of time spent over the last several years. I'm not necessarily talking about my time, but all involved.
However, if we're almost to realizing it's implementation, it will be valuable to finish. I know I haven't been super involved with the Bike Board as of late since my priorities are my family and kids right now, especially with a 2 month old, but I'll be back in the loop again, especially IF we land that WVDOH Transportation Alternatives grant.
Have a nice day. I appreciate the update.
~Derek
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl@gmail.com mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com > wrote:
Last night, City Council unanimously approved the first reading of the ordinance that will authorize the MOU between the City, WVDOH and WVU to get the climbing lane installed.
Considering that it took 2 years from the time we proposed the climbing lane for the City to convene a meeting with all the stakeholders and then 3 more years from the time these 3 parties met and reached a vocal agreement to write the MOU which is substantively identical to that which was agreed, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the MOU to actually get signed by the 3 parties and then implemented by them.
Jenny Selin raised a good point during the bike lane discussion at last night's meeting. She observed that the surface of the shoulder where the bike lane is supposed to go is poor and needs some real pavement before money's wasted striping, marking and signing it. Jeff Mikorski responded that WVDOH is responsible for paving Mon Blvd. but was not aware that WVDOH has any plans to repave it or the shoulder. He said that he hoped the City could work with WVDOH to get them to repave the shoulder if they had funds for it. Mike Fike also questioned who will keep the climbing lane clean. Jeff responded that both the WVDOH and the City sweep the shoulder.
So, you can see that the obstacles this project still needs to overcome are not unlike the glass, rocks, snow, ice and other debris that those of us that ride up Mon Blvd. must get around or over. It would be interesting to compare this project's history with that of the Evansdale Drive relocation and creation of a roadway through the Arboretum.
Frank
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
Begin forwarded message:
From: Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl@gmail.com mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com >
Subject: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Date: October 21, 2014 2:52:52 PM EDT
To: Bike Board - Morgantown <bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com mailto:bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com >
Tonight's City Council meeting agenda item #10:
Consideration of APPROVAL of FIRST READING of AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF MORGANTOWN AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN IT AND THE WV DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DIVISION OF HIGHWAYS, FOR INSTALLATION OF A BICYCLE LANE ALONG NORTHBOUND U.S. 19(MONONGAHELA BOULEVARD), BETWEEN EIGHTH STREET AND EVANSDALE DRIVE.
See p. 60 -61 (approximately half way through the packet) at http://www.morgantownwv.gov/wp-content/uploads/City-Council-Packet.pdf for the actual MOU. (Sorry, I couldn't cut-and-paste it legibly here.)
You could attend the meeting in City Hall or watch it live on TV.
Frank
_______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com mailto:Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
FYI, the bike board meeting is tomorrow (Thursday, Nov. 6), PSB Training Room, from 6:30-8:30 pm.
See you then,
Jing
From: Jennifer [mailto:jselin@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 1:55 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Chip Wamsley; Jing Zhang; Derek Springston; Bike Board - Morgantown Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
What Time?
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:03 AM, "Frank Gmeindl" <fgmeindl@gmail.com mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com > wrote:
Works for me.
Frank
Those that say, "It can't be done" should not stand in the way of those that are doing it
On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "Chip Wamsley" <chip@wamsleycycles.com mailto:chip@wamsleycycles.com > wrote:
That works for me.
Chip
---- Original Message ---- From: "Jing Zhang" <tranplan@labyrinth.net mailto:tranplan@labyrinth.net > Sent: 10/23/2014 7:47:27 AM To: "'Jennifer'" <jselin@hotmail.com mailto:jselin@hotmail.com >, "'Derek Springston'" <dspringston@gmail.com mailto:dspringston@gmail.com > Cc: "'Bike Board - Morgantown'" <bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com mailto:bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com >, "'Frank Gmeindl'" <fgmeindl@gmail.com mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Let’s schedule a time to meet! Propose: the Thursday of the first week in November (Nov. 6th)?
Jing
From: bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com mailto:bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com mailto:bounces@bikemorgantown.com ] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:11 PM To: Derek Springston Cc: Bike Board - Morgantown; Frank Gmeindl Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
I appreciate all of the work that has been done over the past several years. Here we are where we are and we have support for bicycle initiatives, we have had changes in administrative staff. It still takes time to put items in place, but if we don't push, we don't make progress.
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jennifer" <jselin@hotmail.com mailto:jselin@hotmail.com > wrote:
Somewhere in here we do need some visible projects. Could use bike board help!
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:19 AM, "Derek Springston" <dspringston@gmail.com mailto:dspringston@gmail.com > wrote:
Frank, Thanks for the update. It would be exciting to see a climbing lane there. I would use it just the same or almost the same whether they put a lane in there or not, but I think it would provide some more 'visible' infrastructure to encourage folks to bike. With the time it's taken or taking, it feels like a failed project to me, and I hate to feel like giving up, but at this point, it makes me feel like questioning whether that project was a valuable use of time spent over the last several years. I'm not necessarily talking about my time, but all involved.
However, if we're almost to realizing it's implementation, it will be valuable to finish. I know I haven't been super involved with the Bike Board as of late since my priorities are my family and kids right now, especially with a 2 month old, but I'll be back in the loop again, especially IF we land that WVDOH Transportation Alternatives grant.
Have a nice day. I appreciate the update.
~Derek
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl@gmail.com mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com > wrote:
Last night, City Council unanimously approved the first reading of the ordinance that will authorize the MOU between the City, WVDOH and WVU to get the climbing lane installed.
Considering that it took 2 years from the time we proposed the climbing lane for the City to convene a meeting with all the stakeholders and then 3 more years from the time these 3 parties met and reached a vocal agreement to write the MOU which is substantively identical to that which was agreed, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the MOU to actually get signed by the 3 parties and then implemented by them.
Jenny Selin raised a good point during the bike lane discussion at last night's meeting. She observed that the surface of the shoulder where the bike lane is supposed to go is poor and needs some real pavement before money's wasted striping, marking and signing it. Jeff Mikorski responded that WVDOH is responsible for paving Mon Blvd. but was not aware that WVDOH has any plans to repave it or the shoulder. He said that he hoped the City could work with WVDOH to get them to repave the shoulder if they had funds for it. Mike Fike also questioned who will keep the climbing lane clean. Jeff responded that both the WVDOH and the City sweep the shoulder.
So, you can see that the obstacles this project still needs to overcome are not unlike the glass, rocks, snow, ice and other debris that those of us that ride up Mon Blvd. must get around or over. It would be interesting to compare this project's history with that of the Evansdale Drive relocation and creation of a roadway through the Arboretum.
Frank
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
Begin forwarded message:
From: Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl@gmail.com mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com >
Subject: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Date: October 21, 2014 2:52:52 PM EDT
To: Bike Board - Morgantown <bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com mailto:bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com >
Tonight's City Council meeting agenda item #10:
Consideration of APPROVAL of FIRST READING of AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF MORGANTOWN AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN IT AND THE WV DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DIVISION OF HIGHWAYS, FOR INSTALLATION OF A BICYCLE LANE ALONG NORTHBOUND U.S. 19(MONONGAHELA BOULEVARD), BETWEEN EIGHTH STREET AND EVANSDALE DRIVE.
See p. 60 -61 (approximately half way through the packet) at http://www.morgantownwv.gov/wp-content/uploads/City-Council-Packet.pdf for the actual MOU. (Sorry, I couldn't cut-and-paste it legibly here.)
You could attend the meeting in City Hall or watch it live on TV.
Frank
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Jing, I will not be able to attend the BB Meeting on Thursday as I'll be out of town for a planning meeting in Wellburg for an EPA Brownfields grant. I'm disappointed about missing the BB Meeting, as I firmly believe we need to get the ball rolling again, but I just can't be there tomorrow.
*I would like to recommend at the meeting that you guys talk about the possibility of applying for another Transportation Alternatives Program grant for FY2015 like we did last year for FY2014.* I recommend you discuss: - whether or not we should pursue it again - who should lead the effort (I could lead it again, unless someone else really wants to) - who would like to help with the application
So far, Mayor Selin said she'd like to see us pursue it and Jing and Chip said they'd be willing to help with the application. Since we worked with the City Manager last year on this, I've asked Jeff Mikorski about his interest, and will let you know when I hear back from him.
Thanks for the meeting reminder. I hope it's well attended. ~Derek
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jing Zhang tranplan@labyrinth.net wrote:
FYI, the bike board meeting is tomorrow (Thursday, Nov. 6), PSB Training Room, from 6:30-8:30 pm.
See you then,
Jing
*From:* Jennifer [mailto:jselin@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 1:55 PM *To:* Frank Gmeindl *Cc:* Chip Wamsley; Jing Zhang; Derek Springston; Bike Board - Morgantown *Subject:* Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
What Time?
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:03 AM, "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Works for me.
Frank
*Those that say, "It can't be done" should not stand in the way of those that are doing it*
On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "Chip Wamsley" chip@wamsleycycles.com wrote:
That works for me.
Chip
---- Original Message ---- From: "Jing Zhang" tranplan@labyrinth.net Sent: 10/23/2014 7:47:27 AM To: "'Jennifer'" jselin@hotmail.com, "'Derek Springston'" < dspringston@gmail.com> Cc: "'Bike Board - Morgantown'" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com, "'Frank Gmeindl'" fgmeindl@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Let’s schedule a time to meet! Propose: the Thursday of the first week in November (Nov. 6th)?
Jing
*From:* bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [mailto:bikeboard- bounces@bikemorgantown.com] *On Behalf Of *Jennifer *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:11 PM *To:* Derek Springston *Cc:* Bike Board - Morgantown; Frank Gmeindl *Subject:* Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
I appreciate all of the work that has been done over the past several years. Here we are where we are and we have support for bicycle initiatives, we have had changes in administrative staff. It still takes time to put items in place, but if we don't push, we don't make progress.
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jennifer" jselin@hotmail.com wrote:
Somewhere in here we do need some visible projects. Could use bike board help!
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:19 AM, "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com wrote:
Frank, Thanks for the update. It would be exciting to see a climbing lane there. I would use it just the same or almost the same whether they put a lane in there or not, but I think it would provide some more 'visible' infrastructure to encourage folks to bike. With the time it's taken or taking, it feels like a failed project to me, and I hate to feel like giving up, but at this point, it makes me feel like questioning whether that project was a valuable use of time spent over the last several years. I'm not necessarily talking about my time, but all involved.
However, if we're almost to realizing it's implementation, it will be valuable to finish. I know I haven't been super involved with the Bike Board as of late since my priorities are my family and kids right now, especially with a 2 month old, but I'll be back in the loop again, especially IF we land that WVDOH Transportation Alternatives grant.
Have a nice day. I appreciate the update.
~Derek
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Last night, City Council unanimously approved the first reading of the ordinance that will authorize the MOU between the City, WVDOH and WVU to get the climbing lane installed.
Considering that it took 2 years from the time we proposed the climbing lane for the City to convene a meeting with all the stakeholders and then 3 more years from the time these 3 parties met and reached a vocal agreement to write the MOU which is substantively identical to that which was agreed, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the MOU to actually get signed by the 3 parties and then implemented by them.
Jenny Selin raised a good point during the bike lane discussion at last night's meeting. She observed that the surface of the shoulder where the bike lane is supposed to go is poor and needs some real pavement before money's wasted striping, marking and signing it. Jeff Mikorski responded that WVDOH is responsible for paving Mon Blvd. but was not aware that WVDOH has any plans to repave it or the shoulder. He said that he hoped the City could work with WVDOH to get them to repave the shoulder if they had funds for it. Mike Fike also questioned who will keep the climbing lane clean. Jeff responded that both the WVDOH and the City sweep the shoulder.
So, you can see that the obstacles this project still needs to overcome are not unlike the glass, rocks, snow, ice and other debris that those of us that ride up Mon Blvd. must get around or over. It would be interesting to compare this project's history with that of the Evansdale Drive relocation and creation of a roadway through the Arboretum.
Frank
*Lead, follow, or get out of the way*
Begin forwarded message:
*From: *Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com
*Subject: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane*
*Date: *October 21, 2014 2:52:52 PM EDT
*To: *Bike Board - Morgantown bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com
Tonight's City Council meeting agenda item #10:
Consideration of APPROVAL of FIRST READING of AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF MORGANTOWN AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN IT AND THE WV DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DIVISION OF HIGHWAYS, FOR INSTALLATION OF A BICYCLE LANE ALONG NORTHBOUND U.S. 19(MONONGAHELA BOULEVARD), BETWEEN EIGHTH STREET AND EVANSDALE DRIVE.
See p. 60 -61 (approximately half way through the packet) at http://www.morgantownwv.gov/wp-content/uploads/City-Council-Packet.pdf for the actual MOU. (Sorry, I couldn't cut-and-paste it legibly here.)
You could attend the meeting in City Hall or watch it live on TV.
Frank
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
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*“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells* *“Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride.” -John F. Kennedy*
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Thanks for taking this on Jing! I will not be able to attend, either.
I move that the meeting proceed even if there is an absence of a quorum, and that any formal decisions made at the meeting that require immediate action be sent out by email in order that such actions may be ratified by those who could not be in attendance in order to establish a decision by a majority of board members.
I do agree with Derek's recommendations, and suggest that he continue as the leader!
-Jonathan
On 11/05/2014 10:34 AM, Derek Springston wrote:
Jing, I will not be able to attend the BB Meeting on Thursday as I'll be out of town for a planning meeting in Wellburg for an EPA Brownfields grant. I'm disappointed about missing the BB Meeting, as I firmly believe we need to get the ball rolling again, but I just can't be there tomorrow.
*I would like to recommend at the meeting that you guys talk about the possibility of applying for another Transportation Alternatives Program grant for FY2015 like we did last year for FY2014.* I recommend you discuss: - whether or not we should pursue it again - who should lead the effort (I could lead it again, unless someone else really wants to) - who would like to help with the application
So far, Mayor Selin said she'd like to see us pursue it and Jing and Chip said they'd be willing to help with the application. Since we worked with the City Manager last year on this, I've asked Jeff Mikorski about his interest, and will let you know when I hear back from him.
Thanks for the meeting reminder. I hope it's well attended. ~Derek
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jing Zhang <tranplan@labyrinth.net mailto:tranplan@labyrinth.net> wrote:
FYI, the bike board meeting is tomorrow (Thursday, Nov. 6), PSB Training Room, from 6:30-8:30 pm. See you then, Jing *From:*Jennifer [mailto:jselin@hotmail.com <mailto:jselin@hotmail.com>] *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 1:55 PM *To:* Frank Gmeindl *Cc:* Chip Wamsley; Jing Zhang; Derek Springston; Bike Board - Morgantown *Subject:* Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane What Time? Jenny Selin Cell 304-685-6569 <tel:304-685-6569> On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:03 AM, "Frank Gmeindl" <fgmeindl@gmail.com <mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com>> wrote: Works for me. Frank /Those that say, "It can't be done" should not stand in the way of those that are doing it/ On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "Chip Wamsley" <chip@wamsleycycles.com <mailto:chip@wamsleycycles.com>> wrote: That works for me. Chip ---- Original Message ---- From: "Jing Zhang" <tranplan@labyrinth.net <mailto:tranplan@labyrinth.net>> Sent: 10/23/2014 7:47:27 AM To: "'Jennifer'" <jselin@hotmail.com <mailto:jselin@hotmail.com>>, "'Derek Springston'" <dspringston@gmail.com <mailto:dspringston@gmail.com>> Cc: "'Bike Board - Morgantown'" <bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com <mailto:bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com>>, "'Frank Gmeindl'" <fgmeindl@gmail.com <mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane Let's schedule a time to meet! Propose: the Thursday of the first week in November (Nov. 6th)? Jing *From:*bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com <mailto:bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com> [mailto:bikeboard- <mailto:bikeboard->bounces@bikemorgantown.com <mailto:bounces@bikemorgantown.com>] *On Behalf Of *Jennifer *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:11 PM *To:* Derek Springston *Cc:* Bike Board - Morgantown; Frank Gmeindl *Subject:* Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane I appreciate all of the work that has been done over the past several years. Here we are where we are and we have support for bicycle initiatives, we have had changes in administrative staff. It still takes time to put items in place, but if we don't push, we don't make progress. Jenny Selin Cell 304-685-6569 <tel:304-685-6569> On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jennifer" <jselin@hotmail.com <mailto:jselin@hotmail.com>> wrote: Somewhere in here we do need some visible projects. Could use bike board help! Jenny Selin Cell 304-685-6569 <tel:304-685-6569> On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:19 AM, "Derek Springston" <dspringston@gmail.com <mailto:dspringston@gmail.com>> wrote: Frank, Thanks for the update. It would be exciting to see a climbing lane there. I would use it just the same or almost the same whether they put a lane in there or not, but I think it would provide some more 'visible' infrastructure to encourage folks to bike. With the time it's taken or taking, it feels like a failed project to me, and I hate to feel like giving up, but at this point, it makes me feel like questioning whether that project was a valuable use of time spent over the last several years. I'm not necessarily talking about my time, but all involved. However, if we're almost to realizing it's implementation, it will be valuable to finish. I know I haven't been super involved with the Bike Board as of late since my priorities are my family and kids right now, especially with a 2 month old, but I'll be back in the loop again, especially IF we land that WVDOH Transportation Alternatives grant. Have a nice day. I appreciate the update. ~Derek On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl@gmail.com <mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com>> wrote: Last night, City Council unanimously approved the first reading of the ordinance that will authorize the MOU between the City, WVDOH and WVU to get the climbing lane installed. Considering that it took 2 years from the time we proposed the climbing lane for the City to convene a meeting with all the stakeholders and then 3 more years from the time these 3 parties met and reached a vocal agreement to write the MOU which is substantively identical to that which was agreed, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the MOU to actually get signed by the 3 parties and then implemented by them. Jenny Selin raised a good point during the bike lane discussion at last night's meeting. She observed that the surface of the shoulder where the bike lane is supposed to go is poor and needs some real pavement before money's wasted striping, marking and signing it. Jeff Mikorski responded that WVDOH is responsible for paving Mon Blvd. but was not aware that WVDOH has any plans to repave it or the shoulder. He said that he hoped the City could work with WVDOH to get them to repave the shoulder if they had funds for it. Mike Fike also questioned who will keep the climbing lane clean. Jeff responded that both the WVDOH and the City sweep the shoulder. So, you can see that the obstacles this project still needs to overcome are not unlike the glass, rocks, snow, ice and other debris that those of us that ride up Mon Blvd. must get around or over. It would be interesting to compare this project's history with that of the Evansdale Drive relocation and creation of a roadway through the Arboretum. Frank /Lead, follow, or get out of the way/ Begin forwarded message: *From: *Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl@gmail.com <mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com>> *Subject: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane* *Date: *October 21, 2014 2:52:52 PM EDT *To: *Bike Board - Morgantown <bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com <mailto:bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com>> Tonight's City Council meeting agenda item #10: Consideration of APPROVAL of FIRST READING of AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF MORGANTOWN AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN IT AND THE WV DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DIVISION OF HIGHWAYS, FOR INSTALLATION OF A BICYCLE LANE ALONG NORTHBOUND U.S. 19(MONONGAHELA BOULEVARD), BETWEEN EIGHTH STREET AND EVANSDALE DRIVE. See p. 60 -61 (approximately half way through the packet) at http://www.morgantownwv.gov/wp-content/uploads/City-Council-Packet.pdf for the actual MOU. (Sorry, I couldn't cut-and-paste it legibly here.) You could attend the meeting in City Hall or watch it live on TV. Frank _______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com <mailto:Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com> http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard -- /*Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha*/ /*"Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race." -H.G. Wells*/*/ /"Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride." -John F. 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Hi All,
I won't be able to make it tomorrow but am interested in getting some visibility of bike board projects, especially if we have the support of and can work with city council and administration.
Jing: a while back you'd mentioned getting leaflets/ flyers put into utility bills with education about bike safety and HB 4304. I'd love to be involved in that. Let me know if you have already started working towards that.
Thanks, everyone.
Emily
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Rosenbaum <jr@wvcompletestreets.org
wrote:
Thanks for taking this on Jing! I will not be able to attend, either.
I move that the meeting proceed even if there is an absence of a quorum, and that any formal decisions made at the meeting that require immediate action be sent out by email in order that such actions may be ratified by those who could not be in attendance in order to establish a decision by a majority of board members.
I do agree with Derek's recommendations, and suggest that he continue as the leader!
-Jonathan
On 11/05/2014 10:34 AM, Derek Springston wrote:
Jing, I will not be able to attend the BB Meeting on Thursday as I'll be out of town for a planning meeting in Wellburg for an EPA Brownfields grant. I'm disappointed about missing the BB Meeting, as I firmly believe we need to get the ball rolling again, but I just can't be there tomorrow.
*I would like to recommend at the meeting that you guys talk about the possibility of applying for another Transportation Alternatives Program grant for FY2015 like we did last year for FY2014.* I recommend you discuss: - whether or not we should pursue it again - who should lead the effort (I could lead it again, unless someone else really wants to) - who would like to help with the application
So far, Mayor Selin said she'd like to see us pursue it and Jing and Chip said they'd be willing to help with the application. Since we worked with the City Manager last year on this, I've asked Jeff Mikorski about his interest, and will let you know when I hear back from him.
Thanks for the meeting reminder. I hope it's well attended. ~Derek
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jing Zhang tranplan@labyrinth.net wrote:
FYI, the bike board meeting is tomorrow (Thursday, Nov. 6), PSB Training Room, from 6:30-8:30 pm.
See you then,
Jing
*From:* Jennifer [mailto:jselin@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 1:55 PM *To:* Frank Gmeindl *Cc:* Chip Wamsley; Jing Zhang; Derek Springston; Bike Board - Morgantown *Subject:* Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
What Time?
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:03 AM, "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Works for me.
Frank
*Those that say, "It can't be done" should not stand in the way of those that are doing it*
On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "Chip Wamsley" chip@wamsleycycles.com wrote:
That works for me.
Chip
---- Original Message ---- From: "Jing Zhang" tranplan@labyrinth.net Sent: 10/23/2014 7:47:27 AM To: "'Jennifer'" jselin@hotmail.com, "'Derek Springston'" < dspringston@gmail.com> Cc: "'Bike Board - Morgantown'" bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com, "'Frank Gmeindl'" fgmeindl@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
Let’s schedule a time to meet! Propose: the Thursday of the first week in November (Nov. 6th)?
Jing
*From:* bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [mailto:bikeboard- bounces@bikemorgantown.com] *On Behalf Of *Jennifer *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:11 PM *To:* Derek Springston *Cc:* Bike Board - Morgantown; Frank Gmeindl *Subject:* Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane
I appreciate all of the work that has been done over the past several years. Here we are where we are and we have support for bicycle initiatives, we have had changes in administrative staff. It still takes time to put items in place, but if we don't push, we don't make progress.
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jennifer" jselin@hotmail.com wrote:
Somewhere in here we do need some visible projects. Could use bike board help!
Jenny Selin
Cell 304-685-6569
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:19 AM, "Derek Springston" dspringston@gmail.com wrote:
Frank, Thanks for the update. It would be exciting to see a climbing lane there. I would use it just the same or almost the same whether they put a lane in there or not, but I think it would provide some more 'visible' infrastructure to encourage folks to bike. With the time it's taken or taking, it feels like a failed project to me, and I hate to feel like giving up, but at this point, it makes me feel like questioning whether that project was a valuable use of time spent over the last several years. I'm not necessarily talking about my time, but all involved.
However, if we're almost to realizing it's implementation, it will be valuable to finish. I know I haven't been super involved with the Bike Board as of late since my priorities are my family and kids right now, especially with a 2 month old, but I'll be back in the loop again, especially IF we land that WVDOH Transportation Alternatives grant.
Have a nice day. I appreciate the update.
~Derek
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com wrote:
Last night, City Council unanimously approved the first reading of the ordinance that will authorize the MOU between the City, WVDOH and WVU to get the climbing lane installed.
Considering that it took 2 years from the time we proposed the climbing lane for the City to convene a meeting with all the stakeholders and then 3 more years from the time these 3 parties met and reached a vocal agreement to write the MOU which is substantively identical to that which was agreed, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the MOU to actually get signed by the 3 parties and then implemented by them.
Jenny Selin raised a good point during the bike lane discussion at last night's meeting. She observed that the surface of the shoulder where the bike lane is supposed to go is poor and needs some real pavement before money's wasted striping, marking and signing it. Jeff Mikorski responded that WVDOH is responsible for paving Mon Blvd. but was not aware that WVDOH has any plans to repave it or the shoulder. He said that he hoped the City could work with WVDOH to get them to repave the shoulder if they had funds for it. Mike Fike also questioned who will keep the climbing lane clean. Jeff responded that both the WVDOH and the City sweep the shoulder.
So, you can see that the obstacles this project still needs to overcome are not unlike the glass, rocks, snow, ice and other debris that those of us that ride up Mon Blvd. must get around or over. It would be interesting to compare this project's history with that of the Evansdale Drive relocation and creation of a roadway through the Arboretum.
Frank
*Lead, follow, or get out of the way*
Begin forwarded message:
*From: *Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com
*Subject: Mon Blvd Bicycle Climbing Lane*
*Date: *October 21, 2014 2:52:52 PM EDT
*To: *Bike Board - Morgantown bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com
Tonight's City Council meeting agenda item #10:
Consideration of APPROVAL of FIRST READING of AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF MORGANTOWN AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN IT AND THE WV DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DIVISION OF HIGHWAYS, FOR INSTALLATION OF A BICYCLE LANE ALONG NORTHBOUND U.S. 19(MONONGAHELA BOULEVARD), BETWEEN EIGHTH STREET AND EVANSDALE DRIVE.
See p. 60 -61 (approximately half way through the packet) at http://www.morgantownwv.gov/wp-content/uploads/City-Council-Packet.pdf for the actual MOU. (Sorry, I couldn't cut-and-paste it legibly here.)
You could attend the meeting in City Hall or watch it live on TV.
Frank
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
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*Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha*
*“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells*
- “Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride.” -John F.
Kennedy*
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
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-- *Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha*
*“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells **“Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride.” -John F. Kennedy*
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