I took a look at this: http://www.bestworkplaces.org/ As far as I can tell, the designation is about quantity of benefits not quality, thus, by sheer number it appears that WVU offers many things (free PRT & bus service, for example). I continue to advocate that the administration to offer the $20/month bicycle commuter tax provision, but it was not included in the recent parking and transportation plan, unfortunately. Just have to keep trying, I suppose.
________________________________ From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Gunnar Shogren' gshogren@gmail.com Cc: 'Bicycle Board' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
I had my bikes in my dorm room, which was permitted. When I visited St Marys College of Maryland, which was making a HUGE push for bikes including a college bike share program. They had indoor parking areas, but didn't permit bikes in the dorms. I put mine back in the car instead of in those public spaces.
My point is, just as the PRT looks great on paper, in actual usage there are significant flaws. Yes, DC and NYC are "bike friendly", if you don't mind stoplights and having your bike stolen.
-----Original Message----- From: Gunnar Shogren [mailto:gshogren@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:13 AM To: Ryan Post Cc: Chet Parsons; Bicycle Board Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
Or lack of indoor or sheltered bike parking at dorms and such. I would say bike racks at the PRT too, think Walnut st. Station...
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com wrote:
I can’t say I disagree, honestly. As a student, it really wasn’t at all impractical to not drive. Takes a bit more time waiting on things, but I think any public transit has that issue. Certainly I wouldn’t credit much of the bicycle related existing stuff, but there has been efforts made for cycling (new racks at most dorms and buildings), bikes on
busses.
It’s when you get down to the details it gets ugly, like the PRT being unreliable, and busses often being full during peak times (esp when the PRT goes down).
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Chet Parsons Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:10 AM To: Bicycle Board Subject: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
This is kind of surprising, don't you think? I guess since it is strictly WVU the designation is easier to apply
Chet
Feds say WVU good workplace for commuters
by The Associated Press
The Associated Press
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) - West Virginia University is getting federal recognition for its efforts to improve commuting for employees and reduce traffic-related pollution.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Department of Transportation have designated WVU as one of the nation's Best Workplaces for Commuters.
University officials announced the designation Wednesday in a news
release.
The university's commuter benefits program includes free access to the Personal Rapid Transit system and Mountain Line transit, bicycle storage facilities and carpool and vanpool programs.
The EPA and the Department of Transportation created the public-private Best Workplaces for Commuters partnership to reduce traffic congestion and traffic-related air pollution .
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
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I am very disappointed by the responses that have been coming from the bike and ped board groups. You seem to believe that if you don't get your way on every suggestion then the deep pocket university is not responsive. If you think that WVU sucks in providing commuter services to our employees and students, I suggest that you go to most other university and compare our services to what they offer. In the past six years we have - instituted and expanded free bus service for employees and students; brought zip car to campus and the community; initiated a free on-line carpool matching service; continued to provide quality and free service for the PRT, completed a first ever master plan for the PRT and begun a very expensive replacement of key components; Worked with other area employers on a subsidized vanpool program; Worked with the city on a Ped Plan and Bike plan; Developed alternative transportation programs and awareness through We GO and participation in every major community promotion of alternative transportation; Offered to university students and employees free bike training classes and now are underwriting the CCC classes through the University; Worked with City staff in community improvements to walking and biking in our community. The point is that we cannot provide everything for everybody, including a very expensive commuter tax provision.
Hugh E. Kierig, AICP, Director Department of Transportation and Parking West Virginia University Post Office Box 6561 1112 Van Voorhis Morgantown, West Virginia 26506 304-293-9095 (o) 304-293-3939 (f)
Christiaan Abildso cabildso@yahoo.com 3/23/2012 2:02 PM >>>
I took a look at this: http://www.bestworkplaces.org/ As far as I can tell, the designation is about quantity of benefits not quality, thus, by sheer number it appears that WVU offers many things (free PRT & bus service, for example). I continue to advocate that the administration to offer the $20/month bicycle commuter tax provision, but it was not included in the recent parking and transportation plan, unfortunately. Just have to keep trying, I suppose.
From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Gunnar Shogren' gshogren@gmail.com Cc: 'Bicycle Board' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
I had my bikes in my dorm room, which was permitted. When I visited St Marys College of Maryland, which was making a HUGE push for bikes including a college bike share program. They had indoor parking areas, but didn't permit bikes in the dorms. I put mine back in the car instead of in those public spaces.
My point is, just as the PRT looks great on paper, in actual usage there are significant flaws. Yes, DC and NYC are "bike friendly", if you don't mind stoplights and having your bike stolen.
-----Original Message----- From: Gunnar Shogren [mailto:gshogren@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:13 AM To: Ryan Post Cc: Chet Parsons; Bicycle Board Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
Or lack of indoor or sheltered bike parking at dorms and such. I would say bike racks at the PRT too, think Walnut st. Station...
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com wrote:
I can’t say I disagree, honestly. As a student, it really wasn’t at
all impractical to not drive. Takes a bit more time waiting on
things,
but I think any public transit has that issue. Certainly I wouldn’t
credit much of the bicycle related existing stuff, but there has been
efforts made for cycling (new racks at most dorms and buildings),
bikes on busses.
It’s when you get down to the details it gets ugly, like the PRT
being
unreliable, and busses often being full during peak times (esp when the PRT goes down).
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org
[mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org]
On Behalf Of Chet Parsons Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:10 AM To: Bicycle Board Subject: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
This is kind of surprising, don't you think? I guess since it is strictly WVU the designation is easier to apply
Chet
Feds say WVU good workplace for commuters
by The Associated Press
The Associated Press
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) - West Virginia University is getting federal
recognition for its efforts to improve commuting for employees and reduce traffic-related pollution.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Department of Transportation have designated WVU as one of the nation's Best Workplaces for Commuters.
University officials announced the designation Wednesday in a news
release.
The university's commuter benefits program includes free access to
the
Personal Rapid Transit system and Mountain Line transit, bicycle storage facilities and carpool and vanpool programs.
The EPA and the Department of Transportation created the public-private Best Workplaces for Commuters partnership to reduce traffic congestion and traffic-related air pollution .
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
_______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
Hugh - my original intent, though not clearly stated, was that commuter services in the larger County are not something I would think should be considered good, but in the context of WVU it makes more sense. Hopefully the ridesharing and commuter services that Bill and Danielle are working on can start to level it out across the county. No offense intended.
Chet
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Hugh Kierig Hugh.Kierig@mail.wvu.eduwrote:
I am very disappointed by the responses that have been coming from the bike and ped board groups. You seem to believe that if you don't get your way on every suggestion then the deep pocket university is not responsive. If you think that WVU sucks in providing commuter services to our employees and students, I suggest that you go to most other university and compare our services to what they offer. In the past six years we have -
- instituted and expanded free bus service for employees and students;
- brought zip car to campus and the community;
- initiated a free on-line carpool matching service;
- continued to provide quality and free service for the PRT, completed
a first ever master plan for the PRT and begun a very expensive replacement of key components;
- Worked with other area employers on a subsidized vanpool program;
- Worked with the city on a Ped Plan and Bike plan;
- Developed alternative transportation programs and awareness through
We GO and participation in every major community promotion of alternative transportation;
- Offered to university students and employees free bike training
classes and now are underwriting the CCC classes through the University;
- Worked with City staff in community improvements to walking and
biking in our community.
The point is that we cannot provide everything for everybody, including a very expensive commuter tax provision.
Hugh E. Kierig, AICP, Director Department of Transportation and Parking West Virginia University Post Office Box 6561 1112 Van Voorhis Morgantown, West Virginia 26506 304-293-9095 (o) 304-293-3939 (f)
Christiaan Abildso cabildso@yahoo.com 3/23/2012 2:02 PM >>>
I took a look at this: http://www.bestworkplaces.org/ As far as I can tell, the designation is about *quantity of benefits *not quality, thus, by sheer number it appears that WVU offers many things (free PRT & bus service, for example). I continue to advocate that the administration to offer the $20/month bicycle commuter tax provision, but it was not included in the recent parking and transportation plan, unfortunately. Just have to keep trying, I suppose.
*From:* Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com *To:* 'Gunnar Shogren' gshogren@gmail.com *Cc:* 'Bicycle Board' bikeboard@cheat.org *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:14 PM *Subject:* Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
I had my bikes in my dorm room, which was permitted. When I visited St Marys College of Maryland, which was making a HUGE push for bikes including a college bike share program. They had indoor parking areas, but didn't permit bikes in the dorms. I put mine back in the car instead of in those public spaces.
My point is, just as the PRT looks great on paper, in actual usage there are significant flaws. Yes, DC and NYC are "bike friendly", if you don't mind stoplights and having your bike stolen.
-----Original Message----- From: Gunnar Shogren [mailto:gshogren@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:13 AM To: Ryan Post Cc: Chet Parsons; Bicycle Board Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
Or lack of indoor or sheltered bike parking at dorms and such. I would say bike racks at the PRT too, think Walnut st. Station...
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com wrote:
I can’t say I disagree, honestly. As a student, it really wasn’t at all impractical to not drive. Takes a bit more time waiting on things, but I think any public transit has that issue. Certainly I wouldn’t credit much of the bicycle related existing stuff, but there has been efforts made for cycling (new racks at most dorms and buildings), bikes
on busses.
It’s when you get down to the details it gets ugly, like the PRT being unreliable, and busses often being full during peak times (esp when the PRT goes down).
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Chet Parsons Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:10 AM To: Bicycle Board Subject: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
This is kind of surprising, don't you think? I guess since it is strictly WVU the designation is easier to apply
Chet
Feds say WVU good workplace for commuters
by The Associated Press
The Associated Press
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) - West Virginia University is getting federal recognition for its efforts to improve commuting for employees and reduce traffic-related pollution.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Department of Transportation have designated WVU as one of the nation's Best Workplaces for Commuters.
University officials announced the designation Wednesday in a news
release.
The university's commuter benefits program includes free access to the Personal Rapid Transit system and Mountain Line transit, bicycle storage facilities and carpool and vanpool programs.
The EPA and the Department of Transportation created the public-private Best Workplaces for Commuters partnership to reduce traffic congestion and traffic-related air pollution .
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
To All: As part of the TDM efforts, I would like to commend WVU for their continued involvement in the program. They have been responsive with consultations and promotions and contributed to the establishment of the current Vanpool program. We look forward to working with them again this year as we expand commuter options. I feel it is important to note that WVU is currently the only 705 corridor employer that pursued and obtained the Best Workplaces designation at this time. Thank you for this effort!
As we align our resources, we will continue to see improvements for the good of all. one step at a time.
Best regards,
D. Williams
mailto:Commuterchoices@gmail.com Commuterchoices@gmail.com
http://commuterchoices.com http://commuterchoices.com
"Planning is about leading, innovating and inspiring the next generation." -APA, Communication Bootcamp
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Chet Parsons Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:30 AM To: Hugh Kierig Cc: Bicycle Board Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
Hugh - my original intent, though not clearly stated, was that commuter services in the larger County are not something I would think should be considered good, but in the context of WVU it makes more sense. Hopefully the ridesharing and commuter services that Bill and Danielle are working on can start to level it out across the county. No offense intended.
Chet
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Hugh Kierig Hugh.Kierig@mail.wvu.edu wrote:
I am very disappointed by the responses that have been coming from the bike and ped board groups. You seem to believe that if you don't get your way on every suggestion then the deep pocket university is not responsive. If you think that WVU sucks in providing commuter services to our employees and students, I suggest that you go to most other university and compare our services to what they offer. In the past six years we have -
* instituted and expanded free bus service for employees and students; * brought zip car to campus and the community; * initiated a free on-line carpool matching service; * continued to provide quality and free service for the PRT, completed a first ever master plan for the PRT and begun a very expensive replacement of key components; * Worked with other area employers on a subsidized vanpool program; * Worked with the city on a Ped Plan and Bike plan; * Developed alternative transportation programs and awareness through We GO and participation in every major community promotion of alternative transportation; * Offered to university students and employees free bike training classes and now are underwriting the CCC classes through the University; * Worked with City staff in community improvements to walking and biking in our community.
The point is that we cannot provide everything for everybody, including a very expensive commuter tax provision.
Hugh E. Kierig, AICP, Director
Department of Transportation and Parking
West Virginia University
Post Office Box 6561
1112 Van Voorhis
Morgantown, West Virginia 26506
304-293-9095 (o)
304-293-3939 (f)
Christiaan Abildso cabildso@yahoo.com 3/23/2012 2:02 PM >>>
I took a look at this: http://www.bestworkplaces.org/
As far as I can tell, the designation is about quantity of benefits not quality, thus, by sheer number it appears that WVU offers many things (free PRT & bus service, for example). I continue to advocate that the administration to offer the $20/month bicycle commuter tax provision, but it was not included in the recent parking and transportation plan, unfortunately. Just have to keep trying, I suppose.
From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Gunnar Shogren' gshogren@gmail.com Cc: 'Bicycle Board' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
I had my bikes in my dorm room, which was permitted. When I visited St Marys College of Maryland, which was making a HUGE push for bikes including a college bike share program. They had indoor parking areas, but didn't permit bikes in the dorms. I put mine back in the car instead of in those public spaces.
My point is, just as the PRT looks great on paper, in actual usage there are significant flaws. Yes, DC and NYC are "bike friendly", if you don't mind stoplights and having your bike stolen.
-----Original Message----- From: Gunnar Shogren [mailto:gshogren@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:13 AM To: Ryan Post Cc: Chet Parsons; Bicycle Board Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
Or lack of indoor or sheltered bike parking at dorms and such. I would say bike racks at the PRT too, think Walnut st. Station...
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com wrote:
I can't say I disagree, honestly. As a student, it really wasn't at all impractical to not drive. Takes a bit more time waiting on things, but I think any public transit has that issue. Certainly I wouldn't credit much of the bicycle related existing stuff, but there has been efforts made for cycling (new racks at most dorms and buildings), bikes on
busses.
It's when you get down to the details it gets ugly, like the PRT being unreliable, and busses often being full during peak times (esp when the PRT goes down).
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Chet Parsons Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:10 AM To: Bicycle Board Subject: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
This is kind of surprising, don't you think? I guess since it is strictly WVU the designation is easier to apply
Chet
Feds say WVU good workplace for commuters
by The Associated Press
The Associated Press
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) - West Virginia University is getting federal recognition for its efforts to improve commuting for employees and reduce traffic-related pollution.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Department of Transportation have designated WVU as one of the nation's Best Workplaces for Commuters.
University officials announced the designation Wednesday in a news
release.
The university's commuter benefits program includes free access to the Personal Rapid Transit system and Mountain Line transit, bicycle storage facilities and carpool and vanpool programs.
The EPA and the Department of Transportation created the public-private Best Workplaces for Commuters partnership to reduce traffic congestion and traffic-related air pollution .
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
_______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
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All - I have replied to Hugh separately, but please accept my public apology for an unintended message. I did not intend to suggest Hugh was not doing an excellent job. On the contrary, I think he is - with little publicity showing what a great job he is doing. I consider Hugh a trusted partner in getting things done that we all hope to see, and I understand that some will not come to fruition. In rereading my email I can see how the wording may have upset him. I am, in fact, a beneficiary of the free PRT and bus services, which have served me well. I look forward to continuing to work in conjunction with Hugh and the bicycle board. Christiaan
________________________________ From: Hugh Kierig Hugh.Kierig@mail.wvu.edu To: 'Gunnar Shogren' gshogren@gmail.com; Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com; Christiaan Abildso cabildso@yahoo.com Cc: 'Bicycle Board' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
I am very disappointed by the responses that have been coming from the bike and ped board groups. You seem to believe that if you don't get your way on every suggestion then the deep pocket university is not responsive. If you think that WVU sucks in providing commuter services to our employees and students, I suggest that you go to most other university and compare our services to what they offer. In the past six years we have - * instituted and expanded free bus service for employees and students; * brought zip car to campus and the community; * initiated a free on-line carpool matching service; * continued to provide quality and free service for the PRT, completed a first ever master plan for the PRT and begun a very expensive replacement of key components; * Worked with other area employers on a subsidized vanpool program; * Worked with the city on a Ped Plan and Bike plan; * Developed alternative transportation programs and awareness through We GO and participation in every major community promotion of alternative transportation; * Offered to university students and employees free bike training classes and now are underwriting the CCC classes through the University; * Worked with City staff in community improvements to walking and biking in our community. The point is that we cannot provide everything for everybody, including a very expensive commuter tax provision.
Hugh E. Kierig, AICP, Director Department of Transportation and Parking West Virginia University Post Office Box 6561 1112 Van Voorhis Morgantown, West Virginia 26506 304-293-9095 (o) 304-293-3939 (f)
Christiaan Abildso cabildso@yahoo.com 3/23/2012 2:02 PM >>>
I took a look at this: http://www.bestworkplaces.org/ As far as I can tell, the designation is about quantity of benefits not quality, thus, by sheer number it appears that WVU offers many things (free PRT & bus service, for example). I continue to advocate that the administration to offer the $20/month bicycle commuter tax provision, but it was not included in the recent parking and transportation plan, unfortunately. Just have to keep trying, I suppose.
________________________________ From: Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com To: 'Gunnar Shogren' gshogren@gmail.com Cc: 'Bicycle Board' bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
I had my bikes in my dorm room, which was permitted. When I visited St Marys College of Maryland, which was making a HUGE push for bikes including a college bike share program. They had indoor parking areas, but didn't permit bikes in the dorms. I put mine back in the car instead of in those public spaces.
My point is, just as the PRT looks great on paper, in actual usage there are significant flaws. Yes, DC and NYC are "bike friendly", if you don't mind stoplights and having your bike stolen.
-----Original Message----- From: Gunnar Shogren [mailto:gshogren@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:13 AM To: Ryan Post Cc: Chet Parsons; Bicycle Board Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
Or lack of indoor or sheltered bike parking at dorms and such. I would say bike racks at the PRT too, think Walnut st. Station...
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Ryan Post rpostwvu@gmail.com wrote:
I can’t say I disagree, honestly. As a student, it really wasn’t at all impractical to not drive. Takes a bit more time waiting on things, but I think any public transit has that issue. Certainly I wouldn’t credit much of the bicycle related existing stuff, but there has been efforts made for cycling (new racks at most dorms and buildings), bikes on
busses.
It’s when you get down to the details it gets ugly, like the PRT being unreliable, and busses often being full during peak times (esp when the PRT goes down).
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of Chet Parsons Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:10 AM To: Bicycle Board Subject: [Bikeboard] AP article on commuting in Morgantown
This is kind of surprising, don't you think? I guess since it is strictly WVU the designation is easier to apply
Chet
Feds say WVU good workplace for commuters
by The Associated Press
The Associated Press
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) - West Virginia University is getting federal recognition for its efforts to improve commuting for employees and reduce traffic-related pollution.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Department of Transportation have designated WVU as one of the nation's Best Workplaces for Commuters.
University officials announced the designation Wednesday in a news
release.
The university's commuter benefits program includes free access to the Personal Rapid Transit system and Mountain Line transit, bicycle storage facilities and carpool and vanpool programs.
The EPA and the Department of Transportation created the public-private Best Workplaces for Commuters partnership to reduce traffic congestion and traffic-related air pollution .
Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard@cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard
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