The moving gate (or gates) would not trap anyone, just hold them on one side for a short while.
When Mountainlair was renovated in 80's, it was obvious to some of us that the second floor should have been extended out across University Avenue. But no.
Downtown is not going to let the road get shut off.
A traffic circle would be an improvement. Currently no U-turn is allowed, this strikes me as counterproductive, dropping folks off is a greater inconvenience and makes more traffic.
On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Ryan Post wrote:
I REALLY like the thinking outside the box on this. I was very quickly sold on it, then realized it may also trap people in the middle.
I think a stairway there wouldn’t be used by pedestrians, because it’d a long way around vs just crossing the road. Unless the road were lowered, which has its own issues.
From: bikeboard-bounces@cheat.org [mailto:bikeboard- bounces@cheat.org] On Behalf Of John Lozier Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:29 PM To: Frank Gmeindl Cc: Bicycle Board; Christiaan Abildso Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Grumbein's Island meeting
Not just for cyclists but for pedestrians and motorists:
Install a moving gate on the island, that slowly travels back and forth. Gate would be about the length of a car, would break pedestrian traffic into segments segments or "slugs" that would alternate with a car or two.
Best.
On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Frank Gmeindl wrote:
Bicycle Board Members,
Any ideas for improving Grumbein's Island for cycists?
Frank
Begin forwarded message:
From: Morgantown Pedestrian Safety Board walkmgw@yahoo.com Date: January 28, 2011 2:15:48 PM EST To: Frank Gmeindl frank.gmeindl@comcast.net, Christiaan Abildso cgabildso@mail.wvu.edu, Bob Anderson randerson@hsc.wvu.edu, Jon Bond jbond3@mix.wvu.edu, Ilana Chertok ichertok@hsc.wvu.edu, Stan Cohen Stanley.Cohen@mail.wvu.edu, Chuck Coole ccoole@hsc.wvu.edu, Jan Derry jderry@nwvcil.org, Dave Harshbarger harshbargerd@wvuh.com, Dwight Harshbarger dwight.harshbarger@gmail.com, George Lilley mgranlil@verizon.net, Regina Mayolo reginam@verizon.net, Jon Miltenberger kokiri4ever@msn.com, Jennifer Noori thenoorinater@gmail.com, Bill Reger-Nash wreger@hsc.wvu.edu, Jonathan Rosenbaum freesource@cheat.org, Jimmie Simmons Jsimmons2642@yahoo.com, David Small dsmall1@mix.wvu.edu, Maria Smith mariasmith@busride.org, Don Spencer dspencer36@comcast.net, Martha Summers msummers@hsc.wvu.edu, Angela Wiley wileya120@gmail.com Subject: Grumbein's Island meeting
Fellow pedestrian advocates. I have been invited to attend a meeting with many constituencies to discuss the future of Grumbein's Island (pedestrian area in front of Mountainlair) next Friday at 10:00 AM. The invitees include: Terry Hough - City Don Spencer - City Roy Nutter - City Christaan Abildso - City Bryan Radabaugh - State Alanna Slack - State Perry Keller - State Bill Austin - Mgtn/Mon MPO Rick Colebank - Alpha Assoc Chuck Branch - Alpha Assoc Charlie Luttrell - Alpha Assoc Rob Moyer - WVU Nelson France - WVU Student Bob Merow - WVU Hugh Kierig - WVU
Please submit any suggestions prior to that meeting. Frank, I could especially use some bicycle design ideas for that area (I've also requested that you be invited). Best, Christiaan
Walk more, safely
Morgantown Pedestrian Safety Board
Christiaan Abildso, Chair
Bill Reger-Nash, Vice Chair
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