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Letter to Editor
by Frank Gmeindl 27 May '10

27 May '10

Bicycle Board Members, Attached is a response to Dennis Bolyard's letter that I propose to send to the Dominion Post. Please use track changes or comments to indicate improvements and send to me. I plan to submit but 5:00 pm today. Sorry for not including the whole BB on my first response of yesterday that I sent to the Education Committee. Frank D. Gmeindl Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles

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Fw: LTE about the Green Life article
by guitardeek＠hotmail.com 27 May '10

27 May '10

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular -----Original Message----- From: guitardeek(a)hotmail.com Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:39:28 To: Nick Hein<director(a)positivespin.org>; Jonathan Rosenbaum<freesource(a)cheat.org> Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] LTE about the Green Life article Nick and Jonathan, Nicely put. I assume it's all true as you're well-educated concerning cyclists. I hope that a reply like yours to the motorists concern gets published in the paper. Another point that could be made is that cyclists using roads that are already created ultimately reduces the need to create and fund trail building projects. I'm not against trails, as I use them, but if we could all share the roads it could reduce the need for our communities or governments to find more money for extra trail-building and maintenance. Just a thought. Maybe this point shouldn't be included in a reply because I think trails and roads work well together to benefit those who use both. We are also reducing our impact on the roads and therefore benefitting taxpayers! Derek Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular -----Original Message----- From: "director" <director(a)positivespin.org> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:18:36 To: Bike Board<bikeboard(a)cheat.org>; Jonathan Rosenbaum<freesource(a)cheat.org> Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] LTE about the Green Life article Jonathan, I think the best point to make in response to a letter like this is as follows. Motorists are paying for insurance, fees, taxes, etc according to the costs they incur. The object is to pay according to what your costs. In spite of the all the money motorists pay for the privilege of driving on public roads, they are still getting subsidized. Bicyclists on the other hand, incur much lower costs which have been found to be more than covered by the federal income taxes we pay, so that no additional fees or taxes are necessary. In fact, bicyclist are subsidizing motorists and not the other way around as is popularly (mis) judged. I can find references to back this up, or refer you to the Alliance for Biking and Walking - they should have the info. Nick ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Jonathan Rosenbaum <freesource(a)cheat.org> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:02:29 -0400 >It was bound to happen soon or later, but a contrarian who believes that >privileges (rights) need to be purchased wrote a letter to the Dominion >Post editor about our last excellent BB article. There is clearly a >separation between having "rights" and having to pay for licenses, >insurance, and property taxes. Do you think the BB should address this >person's question? I don't subscribe to the electronic DP so I've typed >the article out below: > > *Want the rights? Pay for responsibilities* > > It was with amazement that I read the column in Thursday's [The > Dominion Post] in the Green Life page about bicyclists. The title > of the article "Same road, same rights, same rules" was read in > disbelief. > In my opinion, as well as quite a few of my friends', they [the > bicyclists] can have the same rights when they start paying for > license plates as we car and truck owners do. > They can have the same rights when they pay the property taxes > we do on our vehicles. > They can have the same rights when they have to carry the state > minimum insurance as we are required by law to have. > If we have to have all of these things to drive our vehicles on > the roads and they have the same rights as we do, then why do they > not pay the same as we do to have the "privilege" to drive on our roads? > > *Dennis Bolyard > Kingwood* > > > > > > > > -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 2567 Univ Ave Ste 6000L Morgantown, WV ph 304-685-8954 -- _______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard(a)cheat.org http://cheat.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard

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Re: [Bikeboard] LTE about the Green Life article
by director 27 May '10

27 May '10

Jonathan, I think the best point to make in response to a letter like this is as follows. Motorists are paying for insurance, fees, taxes, etc according to the costs they incur. The object is to pay according to what your costs. In spite of the all the money motorists pay for the privilege of driving on public roads, they are still getting subsidized. Bicyclists on the other hand, incur much lower costs which have been found to be more than covered by the federal income taxes we pay, so that no additional fees or taxes are necessary. In fact, bicyclist are subsidizing motorists and not the other way around as is popularly (mis) judged. I can find references to back this up, or refer you to the Alliance for Biking and Walking - they should have the info. Nick ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Jonathan Rosenbaum <freesource(a)cheat.org> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:02:29 -0400 >It was bound to happen soon or later, but a contrarian who believes that >privileges (rights) need to be purchased wrote a letter to the Dominion >Post editor about our last excellent BB article. There is clearly a >separation between having "rights" and having to pay for licenses, >insurance, and property taxes. Do you think the BB should address this >person's question? I don't subscribe to the electronic DP so I've typed >the article out below: > > *Want the rights? Pay for responsibilities* > > It was with amazement that I read the column in Thursday's [The > Dominion Post] in the Green Life page about bicyclists. The title > of the article "Same road, same rights, same rules" was read in > disbelief. > In my opinion, as well as quite a few of my friends', they [the > bicyclists] can have the same rights when they start paying for > license plates as we car and truck owners do. > They can have the same rights when they pay the property taxes > we do on our vehicles. > They can have the same rights when they have to carry the state > minimum insurance as we are required by law to have. > If we have to have all of these things to drive our vehicles on > the roads and they have the same rights as we do, then why do they > not pay the same as we do to have the "privilege" to drive on our roads? > > *Dennis Bolyard > Kingwood* > > > > > > > > -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 2567 Univ Ave Ste 6000L Morgantown, WV ph 304-685-8954 --

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LTE about the Green Life article
by Jonathan Rosenbaum 26 May '10

26 May '10

It was bound to happen soon or later, but a contrarian who believes that privileges (rights) need to be purchased wrote a letter to the Dominion Post editor about our last excellent BB article. There is clearly a separation between having "rights" and having to pay for licenses, insurance, and property taxes. Do you think the BB should address this person's question? I don't subscribe to the electronic DP so I've typed the article out below: *Want the rights? Pay for responsibilities* It was with amazement that I read the column in Thursday's [The Dominion Post] in the Green Life page about bicyclists. The title of the article "Same road, same rights, same rules" was read in disbelief. In my opinion, as well as quite a few of my friends', they [the bicyclists] can have the same rights when they start paying for license plates as we car and truck owners do. They can have the same rights when they pay the property taxes we do on our vehicles. They can have the same rights when they have to carry the state minimum insurance as we are required by law to have. If we have to have all of these things to drive our vehicles on the roads and they have the same rights as we do, then why do they not pay the same as we do to have the "privilege" to drive on our roads? *Dennis Bolyard Kingwood*

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Pittsburgh bronzed!
by director 17 May '10

17 May '10

Good afternoon, Just got my League newsletter with announcements of new bike friendly cities. Pittsburgh has been awarded bronze - Will this doesn't get anyone more motivated to get it here in Morgantown. I'll do a part as long I'm not doing it alone. Nick -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 2567 Univ Ave Ste 6000L Morgantown, WV ph 304-685-8954 --

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Happy Bike to Work Week everybody
by director 17 May '10

17 May '10

Good morning, I got a call from the local TV station asking if we're doing any special events for the rest of bike month. It struck me as odd they didn't call before bike month. It also reminded me that this is Bike to Work Week and as far as I know there is nothing planned - again because we were contacted too late to do anything with anyone and didn't want to do it alone. We really would like to start planning for next year now so this doesn't happen again. Does anyone agree? Where should we start? Thanks, Nick -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 2567 Univ Ave Ste 6000L Morgantown, WV ph 304-685-8954 --

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May BB minutes
by Elizabeth Shogren 15 May '10

15 May '10

Attached please find the May BB minutes. Have a great weekend! BETSY SHOGREN

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San Franscisco Bike to Work Day
by director 14 May '10

14 May '10

Saw this on TreeHugger, thought it might be of interest... http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/05/san-francisco-bike-to-work-day-2010… Nick -- Nick Hein LCI# 1705 Director, Positive Spin 2567 Univ Ave Ste 6000L Morgantown, WV ph 304-685-8954 --

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Bike to Work links?
by Gunnar Shogren 13 May '10

13 May '10

Anybody got any? I may try to do something w/ them. Or not. But if you have any links w/o digging around too much, send them please.

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FW: Agenda for this Thursday's Bicycle Board meeting
by Frank Gmeindl 05 May '10

05 May '10

Bicycle Board Members, Thanks to Ryan Post for discovering that the minutes that I included in the zip folder with the message below were the minutes from our March meeting. Please disregard those. Attached are the minutes for our last meeting, April. Frank Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles From: Frank Gmeindl [mailto:frank.gmeindl@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 2:27 PM To: 'Morgantown Bike Board' Cc: 'krtwriter(a)comcast.net'; 'Barbara Shellito' Subject: Agenda for this Thursday's Bicycle Board meeting Bicycle Board Members, Please find attached a zip folder. The zip folder contains 3 documents: 1. Suggested agenda for this Thursday's regular monthly Bicycle Board meeting. 2. Minutes of our last monthly meeting. 3. Highlights of Education activities. Please let me know ASAP if you want to make any changes to the agenda. Frank Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles

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