From: wvec-board@yahoogroups.com [mailto:wvec-board@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Young Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:47 PM To: WVHCBOARD@yahoogroups.com; wvec-board@yahoogroups.com; Chuck Wyrostok Subject: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV Public Broadcasting tonight (Thursday)
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________________________________ From: "Grubb, Karen" Karen.Grubb@fairmontstate.edu To: "ec@osenergy.org" ec@osenergy.org Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 6:12:47 PM Subject: [EC] FW: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV Public Broadcasting tonight (Thursday)
From:wvec-board@yahoogroups.com [mailto:wvec-board@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Young Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:47 PM To: WVHCBOARD@yahoogroups.com; wvec-board@yahoogroups.com; Chuck Wyrostok Subject: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV Public Broadcasting tonight (Thursday)
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I saw it, yes, Jim. I perceived it as very much a "dog & pony show" for the gas drilling industry.
I mostly agree with someone else who summed it up on another list thusly:
" First 15 minutes taken up with a geology lesson. The last half sounded like a couple of shills for the gas industry. No problems associated with drilling, no natural gas in well-water, no case ever proven, blah, blah, blah. Nothing to see here. Move along. "
I was disappointed that, on a public broadcasting TV program called "The Law Works", there was virtually no discussion of current gas drilling law and looming likely changes in those laws.
After the geology lesson, the primary "legal message" was that if someone wants to lease the gas under your property, or wants to drill a gas well on your property- even if the gas interests are owned by someone else- that you should hire a lawyer. And with Ringer, who is a lawyer, interviewing two other lawyers, I suppose we should not be surprised to hear the chant to "hire a lawyer, hire a lawyer". While it may be good advice, a TV program called "The Law Works" could have done a better job of discussing the legal permutations of it all that make it advisable for land and mineral owners to have legal representation.
Frank
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From: wvec-board@yahoogroups.com [mailto:wvec-board@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Young Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:47 PM To: WVHCBOARD@yahoogroups.com; wvec-board@yahoogroups.com; Chuck Wyrostok Subject: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV Public Broadcasting tonight (Thursday)
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Thanks Frank. Sounds a lot like the dog-and-pony show WVU Extension put on in Buckhannon. They try to pass this crap off as education and information and objective...
I will say, however, that hiring a lawyer before signing anything is definitely good advice.
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________________________________ From: Frank Young fyoung@mountain.net To: ec@osenergy.org Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 11:21:41 AM Subject: Re: [EC] FW: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV PublicBroadcasting tonight (Thursday)
I saw it, yes, Jim. I perceived it as very much a "dog & pony show" for the gas drilling industry.
I mostly agree with someone else who summed it up on another list thusly:
" First 15 minutes taken up with a geology lesson. The last half sounded like a couple of shills for the gas industry. No problems associated with drilling, no natural gas in well-water, no case ever proven, blah, blah, blah. Nothing to see here. Move along. "
I was disappointed that, on a public broadcasting TV program called "The Law Works", there was virtually no discussion of current gas drilling law and looming likely changes in those laws.
After the geology lesson, the primary "legal message" was that if someone wants to lease the gas under your property, or wants to drill a gas well on your property- even if the gas interests are owned by someone else- that you should hire a lawyer. And with Ringer, who is a lawyer, interviewing two other lawyers, I suppose we should not be surprised to hear the chant to "hire a lawyer, hire a lawyer". While it may be good advice, a TV program called "The Law Works" could have done a better job of discussing the legal permutations of it all that make it advisable for land and mineral owners to have legal representation.
Frank
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From: Jim Sconyers To: Grubb, Karen ; ec@osenergy.org Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [EC] FW: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV PublicBroadcasting tonight (Thursday)
Did anybody see this and can report on it?
Jim Sconyers jim_scon@yahoo.com 304.698.9628
Remember: Mother Nature bats last.
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To: "ec@osenergy.org" ec@osenergy.org Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 6:12:47 PM Subject: [EC] FW: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV Public Broadcasting tonight (Thursday)
From:wvec-board@yahoogroups.com [mailto:wvec-board@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Young Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:47 PM To: WVHCBOARD@yahoogroups.com; wvec-board@yahoogroups.com; Chuck Wyrostok Subject: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV Public Broadcasting tonight (Thursday)
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First 15 minutes taken up with a geology lesson. The last half sounded like a couple of shills for the gas industry. No problems associated with drilling, no natural gas in well-water, no case ever proven, blah, blah, blah. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Denise Binion
From: Jim Sconyers [mailto:jim_scon@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:53 AM To: Grubb, Karen; ec@osenergy.org Subject: Re: [EC] FW: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV Public Broadcasting tonight (Thursday)
Did anybody see this and can report on it?
Jim Sconyers jim_scon@yahoo.com 304.698.9628
Remember: Mother Nature bats last.
________________________________ From: "Grubb, Karen" Karen.Grubb@fairmontstate.edu To: "ec@osenergy.org" ec@osenergy.org Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 6:12:47 PM Subject: [EC] FW: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV Public Broadcasting tonight (Thursday) From: wvec-board@yahoogroups.com [mailto:wvec-board@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Young Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:47 PM To: WVHCBOARD@yahoogroups.com; wvec-board@yahoogroups.com; Chuck Wyrostok Subject: [wvec-board] Marcellus Shale- on WV Public Broadcasting tonight (Thursday)
Tonight on The Law Works (8:30 p.m. on WV PBS TV) host Dan Ringer takes on the legal topics around Marcellus Shale Gas drilling in West Virginia. Special guests are attorneys Kenneth Tawney and Andrew Graham. West Virginia Public Broadcastinghttp://www.facebook.com/wvpubcast: __._,_.___ Reply to sendermailto:fyoung@mountain.net?subject=Re%3A%20Narcellus%20Shale-%20on%20WV%20Public%20Briadcasting%20tonight%20%28Thursday%29 | Reply to groupmailto:wvec-board@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Narcellus%20Shale-%20on%20WV%20Public%20Briadcasting%20tonight%20%28Thursday%29 | Reply via web posthttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/wvec-board/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbDlsbmxoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIxNTg0MDQxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTM2NTM5MgRtc2dJZAMxOTUyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTI5MTkzNDgwNA--?act=reply&messageNum=1952 | Start a New Topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/wvec-board/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNmkxanNuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIxNTg0MDQxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTM2NTM5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyOTE5MzQ4MDQ- Messages in this topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/wvec-board/message/1952;_ylc=X3oDMTM1djZrZnF2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIxNTg0MDQxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTM2NTM5MgRtc2dJZAMxOTUyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTI5MTkzNDgwNAR0cGNJZAMxOTUy (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/wvec-board;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcXZoc2VlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIxNTg0MDQxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTM2NTM5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyOTE5MzQ4MDQ- .
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