Frank, I don't doubt that they have not been classified as hazardous, because of all the exemptions gas development has from federal laws. That's the problem. And I seriously doubt that a regular landfill has the capability of testing for some of the nasties they contain, especially the NORMs. Granted, a landfill is better than buried on site, but the landfill in Greenbrier Co has leachate that goes into the Greenbrier River.
-----Original Message----- From: ec-bounces@osenergy.org [mailto:ec-bounces@osenergy.org] On Behalf Of Frank Young Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:20 PM To: ec@osenergy.org Cc: wyro@appalight.com; DSGJr@aol.com; jbc329@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [EC] Fwd: Tomblin's Executive Order be Beth,
By what legal determination are these drilling cuttings "hazardous materials"? Somehow I doubt that they have been legally determined to be hazardous materials.
I think I'd rather see them taken to a legal landfill than disposed of on site by the usual "fold the liner into the hole and bury" method.
Frank
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Furthermore, Leslee and I are trying to track down the facts behind hearing that the Greenbrier landfill is taking cuttings from wells in Greenbrier Co. Leslee said she heard they have a permit. If it's a permit from the DEP, then they are allowing hazardous materials in regular landfills.
-----Original Message----- From: ec-bounces@osenergy.org [mailto:ec-bounces@osenergy.org] On Behalf Of James Kotcon Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:12 PM To: ec@osenergy.org Cc: wyro@appalight.com; DSGJr@aol.com; jbc329@earthlink.net Subject: [EC] Fwd: Tomblin's Executive Order
Thank you Jonathon. Not sure how you got this, but it makes interesting reading.
At first glance this seems like a major step forward, but the cynic in me read it again.
Nothing in here requires permits for or limits air emissions.
Nothing requires a permit for water withdrawals. This order give the
operator the authority to submit a plan, and as long as the plan meets the methods approved by DEP, DEP can not deny or reject a plan submitted by the operator.
- Nothing prohibits on-site burial of pit wastes. It says pits can be
"managed on site in a manner otherwise approved by the Secretary of the WVDEP", and DEP currently approves on-site burial?
So I am wondering if it is time to blast this proposal as too little, too late, and a prescription for continued outrage among citizens and uncertainty for industry. It is a classic example of Tomblin's continuing failure to provide leadership.
JBK
Jonathan Rosenbaum freesource@cheat.org 7/12/2011 4:10 PM >>>
Attached is Tomblin's executive order concerning gas drilling.
-Jonathan
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