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--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Ned Ford Ned.Ford@FUSE.NET wrote: From: Ned Ford Ned.Ford@FUSE.NET Subject: Please write DOE re: lamp standards To: CONS-SPST-GLOBALWARM-CHAIRS@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 2:22 AM
This is so heavily forwarded I can't tell where it started, but it seems appropriate, and for once we have time to actually write the letters.
- Ned
In June of this year, the Department of Energy (DOE) will make a decision on efficiency standards for light bulbs, a major decision which could save 50 billion kilowatt hours of electricity per year by 2020, and save consumers $70 billion over 30 years. In addition, it could eliminate more than 800 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions, the equivalent annual emissions of 172 coal-fired power plants. Unfortunately, the rule proposed by the previous administration falls far short and leaves significant energy and cost savings on the table. Your opportunity to reduce global warming emissions and save consumers billions of dollars is NOW. Please write a letter to the DOE asking them to demonstrate that they are serious about climate change. Urge them to adopt the more stringent standards for the fluorescent tube and incandescent reflector lamp rulemaking to gain the maximum benefits for consumers. President Obama has committed to making the US the most energy efficient country in the world and has appointed a scientist and energy efficiency advocate to lead the Department of Energy. If ever there were a time for consumers to voice their opinions and have them heard, that time is now. Please edit the attached letter to reflect your concerns and send to the Department of Energy. Thank you. ..... Charlie SAMPLE LETTER: February xx, 2009 Honorable Steven Chu Secretary
U.S. Department of Energy
1000 Independence Ave, SW
Washington, DC 20585-0121 Re: Fluorescent Tube and Incandescent Lamps Rulemaking Docket #: EE-2006-STD- 0131 Dear Secretary Chu, I am writing to urge you to strengthen the lighting efficiency standards proposed by the previous administration. These new standards, due to be completed in June, will cover fluorescent tube lamps, including the four foot long light bulbs found in millions of office light fixtures, and incandescent reflector lamps, the very common cone-shaped light bulbs used in “recessed can” light fixtures and track lighting. With more than 500 million fluorescent tube lamps and 265 million incandescent reflector lamps sold annually in the U.S., new standards for these products have the potential to deliver more energy and cost savings than any other ever established by the Department of Energy. Based on the Department of Energy’s analysis, strong standards for these lamps could save about 50 billion kilowatt hours per year by 2020, enough to meet the annual electricity needs of 4.4 million typical American homes. Over thirty years, strong standards could net consumers and businesses nearly $70 billion in savings and fight global warming by eliminating 800 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions. However, the previous administration’s proposal sacrifices as much as half of these savings. Even more savings are lost because the reflector lamp proposal includes a huge loophole which leaves out about 40% of all sales. During the presidential campaign last year, President Obama promised to work to “make America the most energy efficient country in the world.” As president, he has committed to meet or beat all deadlines for new appliance and lighting standards, citing their importance for saving consumers money, spurring innovation and saving energy. By making these new lighting standards as strong as possible and closing the loophole in the reflector lamp standard, you can take a huge first step to meeting the president’s commitments. Sincerely,
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Jim,
I have not read the standards yet but it has been in the works for several years now.
The last I have seen on this was a complete phase out of the older T-12 type fluorescent lamps and to start phasing out the T-8 type fluorescent lamps and move all new installations to the T-5 type. For some info. on the different types a standard 4' long T-12 uses 40 watts a T-8 uses 32 and a T-5 uses 25 and they will produce about the same light output. As the new types come into play they also have 2 more benefits one is each group progressively has a longer lifespan the second is a progressive decrease use of mercury.
The next part of the standard is to do away with the old type incandescent bulbs. Should not have to explain this one.
They also have one more part but we do not know how this is to work out yet. They are talking about LED's. The reason we do not know about this yet is we no have several types of lighting that are more efficient than the LED's. If they get industrial acceptance the LED's may not be much of a factor.
The IBEW and NECA have been watching and following this and are actively watching this standard. Once I have anymore info. on how this will effect our environment I will get it to you. The electrical industry want to see this change. It is actually cheaper for us to install the most efficient products.
Kevin Fooce fooce@hotmail.com 304-593-2875
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:52:59 -0800 From: jim_scon@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: Please write DOE re: lamp standards To: ec@osenergy.org; allantweddle@msn.com; barbara.howe@mail.wvu.edu; blittle@citynet.net; brbr_fallon@yahoo.com; daves@labyrinth.net; duane330@aol.com; Ed.Milam@occ.treas.gov; edon1985@comcast.net; fmoose39@hotmail.com; freesource@cheat.org; greyhawkwv@Verizon.net; jkotcon@wvu.edu; marvaevon@aol.com; nhisbobness@aol.com; pamalasue922@verizon.net; pjgrunt@gmail.com; regina1936@verizon.net; sallywilts@yahoo.com; william.depaulo@gmail.com
A simple but huge advance in energy savings...
Jim Sconyers jim_scon@yahoo.com 304.906.6628
Remember: Mother Nature bats last.
--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Ned Ford Ned.Ford@FUSE.NET wrote:
From: Ned Ford Ned.Ford@FUSE.NET Subject: Please write DOE re: lamp standards To: CONS-SPST-GLOBALWARM-CHAIRS@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 2:22 AM
This is so heavily forwarded I can't tell where it started, but it seems appropriate, and for once we have time to actually write the letters.
- Ned
In June of this year, the Department of Energy (DOE) will make a decision on efficiency standards for light bulbs, a major decision which could save 50 billion kilowatt hours of electricity per year by 2020, and save consumers $70 billion over 30 years. In addition, it could eliminate more than 800 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions, the equivalent annual emissions of 172 coal-fired power plants. Unfortunately, the rule proposed by the previous administration falls far short and leaves significant energy and cost savings on the table.
Your opportunity to reduce global warming emissions and save consumers billions of dollars is NOW. Please write a letter to the DOE asking them to demonstrate that they are serious about climate change. Urge them to adopt the more stringent standards for the fluorescent tube and incandescent reflector lamp rulemaking to gain the maximum benefits for consumers.
President Obama has committed to making the US the most energy efficient country in the world and has appointed a scientist and energy efficiency advocate to lead the Department of Energy. If ever there were a time for consumers to voice their opinions and have them heard, that time is now. Please edit the attached letter to reflect your concerns and send to the Department of Energy. Thank you. ..... Charlie
SAMPLE LETTER:
February xx, 2009
Honorable Steven Chu Secretary U.S. Department of Energy 1000 Independence Ave, SW Washington, DC 20585-0121
Re: Fluorescent Tube and Incandescent Lamps Rulemaking Docket #: EE-2006-STD- 0131
Dear Secretary Chu,
I am writing to urge you to strengthen the lighting efficiency standards proposed by the previous administration.
These new standards, due to be completed in June, will cover fluorescent tube lamps, including the four foot long light bulbs found in millions of office light fixtures, and incandescent reflector lamps, the very common cone-shaped light bulbs used in “recessed can” light fixtures and track lighting. With more than 500 million fluorescent tube lamps and 265 million incandescent reflector lamps sold annually in the U.S., new standards for these products have the potential to deliver more energy and cost savings than any other ever established by the Department of Energy.
Based on the Department of Energy’s analysis, strong standards for these lamps could save about 50 billion kilowatt hours per year by 2020, enough to meet the annual electricity needs of 4.4 million typical American homes. Over thirty years, strong standards could net consumers and businesses nearly $70 billion in savings and fight global warming by eliminating 800 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions. However, the previous administration’s proposal sacrifices as much as half of these savings. Even more savings are lost because the reflector lamp proposal includes a huge loophole which leaves out about 40% of all sales.
During the presidential campaign last year, President Obama promised to work to “make America the most energy efficient country in the world.” As president, he has committed to meet or beat all deadlines for new appliance and lighting standards, citing their importance for saving consumers money, spurring innovation and saving energy. By making these new lighting standards as strong as possible and closing the loophole in the reflector lamp standard, you can take a huge first step to meeting the president’s commitments.
Sincerely,
__,_._,___
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Kevin, I was under the impression that LEDs were the most efficient, long-lasting form of lighting presently available, and that their design is improving dramatically. What technology are you referring to that is more efficient?
-Jonathan
kevin fooce wrote:
Jim,
I have not read the standards yet but it has been in the works for several years now.
The last I have seen on this was a complete phase out of the older T-12 type fluorescent lamps and to start phasing out the T-8 type fluorescent lamps and move all new installations to the T-5 type. For some info. on the different types a standard 4' long T-12 uses 40 watts a T-8 uses 32 and a T-5 uses 25 and they will produce about the same light output. As the new types come into play they also have 2 more benefits one is each group progressively has a longer lifespan the second is a progressive decrease use of mercury.
The next part of the standard is to do away with the old type incandescent bulbs. Should not have to explain this one.
They also have one more part but we do not know how this is to work out yet. They are talking about LED's. The reason we do not know about this yet is we no have several types of lighting that are more efficient than the LED's. If they get industrial acceptance the LED's may not be much of a factor.
The IBEW and NECA have been watching and following this and are actively watching this standard. Once I have anymore info. on how this will effect our environment I will get it to you. The electrical industry want to see this change. It is actually cheaper for us to install the most efficient products.
Kevin Fooce fooce@hotmail.com mailto:fooce@hotmail.com 304-593-2875
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:52:59 -0800 From: jim_scon@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: Please write DOE re: lamp standards To: ec@osenergy.org; allantweddle@msn.com; barbara.howe@mail.wvu.edu; blittle@citynet.net; brbr_fallon@yahoo.com; daves@labyrinth.net; duane330@aol.com; Ed.Milam@occ.treas.gov; edon1985@comcast.net; fmoose39@hotmail.com; freesource@cheat.org; greyhawkwv@Verizon.net; jkotcon@wvu.edu; marvaevon@aol.com; nhisbobness@aol.com; pamalasue922@verizon.net; pjgrunt@gmail.com; regina1936@verizon.net; sallywilts@yahoo.com; william.depaulo@gmail.com
A simple but huge advance in energy savings...
Jim Sconyers jim_scon@yahoo.com 304.906.6628
Remember: Mother Nature bats last.
--- On *Sun, 3/1/09, Ned Ford /Ned.Ford@FUSE.NET/* wrote:
From: Ned Ford <Ned.Ford@FUSE.NET> Subject: Please write DOE re: lamp standards To: CONS-SPST-GLOBALWARM-CHAIRS@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 2:22 AM This is so heavily forwarded I can't tell where it started, but it seems appropriate, and for once we have time to actually write the letters. - Ned In June of this year, the Department of Energy (DOE) will make a decision on efficiency standards for light bulbs, a major decision which could save *50 billion kilowatt hours* of electricity per year by 2020, and* save consumers $70 billion* over 30 years. In addition, it could eliminate more than *800 million metric tons* of carbon dioxide emissions, the equivalent annual emissions of 172 coal-fired power plants. Unfortunately, the rule proposed by the previous administration falls far short and leaves significant energy and cost savings on the table. Your opportunity to reduce global warming emissions and save consumers billions of dollars is NOW. Please write a letter to the DOE asking them to demonstrate that they are serious about climate change. Urge them to adopt the more stringent standards for the fluorescent tube and incandescent reflector lamp rulemaking to gain the maximum benefits for consumers. President Obama has committed to making the US the most energy efficient country in the world and has appointed a scientist and energy efficiency advocate to lead the Department of Energy. If ever there were a time for consumers to voice their opinions and have them heard, that time is *now*. Please edit the attached letter to reflect your concerns and send to the Department of Energy. Thank you. ..... Charlie SAMPLE LETTER: February xx, 2009 Honorable Steven Chu Secretary U.S. Department of Energy 1000 Independence Ave, SW Washington, DC 20585-0121 Re: Fluorescent Tube and Incandescent Lamps Rulemaking Docket #: EE-2006-STD- 0131 Dear Secretary Chu, I am writing to urge you to strengthen the lighting efficiency standards proposed by the previous administration. These new standards, due to be completed in June, will cover fluorescent tube lamps, including the four foot long light bulbs found in millions of office light fixtures, and incandescent reflector lamps, the very common cone-shaped light bulbs used in “recessed can” light fixtures and track lighting. With more than 500 million fluorescent tube lamps and 265 million incandescent reflector lamps sold annually in the U.S., new standards for these products have the potential to deliver more energy and cost savings than any other ever established by the Department of Energy. Based on the Department of Energy’s analysis, strong standards for these lamps could save about 50 billion kilowatt hours per year by 2020, enough to meet the annual electricity needs of 4.4 million typical American homes. Over thirty years, strong standards could net consumers and businesses nearly $70 billion in savings and fight global warming by eliminating 800 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions. However, the previous administration’s proposal sacrifices as much as half_ _of these savings. Even more savings are lost because the reflector lamp proposal includes a huge loophole which leaves out about 40% of all sales. During the presidential campaign last year, President Obama promised to work to “make America the most energy efficient country in the world.” As president, he has committed to meet or beat all deadlines for new appliance and lighting standards, citing their importance for saving consumers money, spurring innovation and saving energy. By making these new lighting standards as strong as possible and closing the loophole in the reflector lamp standard, you can take a huge first step to meeting the president’s commitments. Sincerely, __,_._,___ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe from the CONS-SPST-GLOBALWARM-CHAIRS list, send any message to: CONS-SPST-GLOBALWARM-CHAIRS-signoff-request@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG Check out our Listserv Lists support site for more information: http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp To view the Sierra Club List Terms & Conditions, see: http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/terms.asp
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We have plasma lamps that actually have a higher light output per watt than any other type of lighting. The life of the lamp is estimated between 10,000 and 100,000 hours. The are being installed in location throughout the world to see how they react to the real world. They do however have one drawback they produce a very high temperature at the bulb. We are told this is in efficient but the lamps do seems to have a higher light output. One way they are being used to great success is in fiber optic lighting. In this type of lighting you have one light bulb and a bunch of large fiber optic cables. They are also being installed at airports for large area lighting.
As for the LED's they are great but they do have several problems. As with anything 100,000 hr is a long time over 4000 days if they are on 24 hrs. per day. But we need to remember that most lighting is on for 12 to 16 hrs. per day or 20 years of service. High output LED's have not been around this long so we can see the problem. But as for the problem the electrical industry has is they do not last as long as the manufactures state. Usually going bad within a year or two. This is not a problem except when you go replace these lamps and find they no longer exist. Customers are not happy because they are usually custom light fixtures which may require changing many light fixtures.
This is probable the most promising product! But we also have to realize that LED's are still in the development stages too. LED's are more popular because of there relative cheap cost to manufacture.
Kevin Fooce fooce@hotmail.com 304-593-2875
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:51:08 -0500 From: freesource@cheat.org To: fmoose39@hotmail.com CC: ec@osenergy.org; barbara.howe@mail.wvu.edu; daves@labyrinth.net; ed.milam@occ.treas.gov; edon1985@comcast.net; marvaevon@aol.com; nhisbobness@aol.com; pamalasue922@verizon.net Subject: Re: Please write DOE re: lamp standards
Kevin, I was under the impression that LEDs were the most efficient, long-lasting form of lighting presently available, and that their design is improving dramatically. What technology are you referring to that is more efficient?
-Jonathan
kevin fooce wrote:
Jim,
I have not read the standards yet but it has been in the works for several years now.
The last I have seen on this was a complete phase out of the older T-12 type fluorescent lamps and to start phasing out the T-8 type fluorescent lamps and move all new installations to the T-5 type. For some info. on the different types a standard 4' long T-12 uses 40 watts a T-8 uses 32 and a T-5 uses 25 and they will produce about the same light output. As the new types come into play they also have 2 more benefits one is each group progressively has a longer lifespan the second is a progressive decrease use of mercury.
The next part of the standard is to do away with the old type incandescent bulbs. Should not have to explain this one.
They also have one more part but we do not know how this is to work out yet. They are talking about LED's. The reason we do not know about this yet is we no have several types of lighting that are more efficient than the LED's. If they get industrial acceptance the LED's may not be much of a factor.
The IBEW and NECA have been watching and following this and are actively watching this standard. Once I have anymore info. on how this will effect our environment I will get it to you. The electrical industry want to see this change. It is actually cheaper for us to install the most efficient products.
Kevin Fooce fooce@hotmail.com 304-593-2875
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:52:59 -0800 From: jim_scon@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: Please write DOE re: lamp standards To: ec@osenergy.org; allantweddle@msn.com; barbara.howe@mail.wvu.edu; blittle@citynet.net; brbr_fallon@yahoo.com; daves@labyrinth.net; duane330@aol.com; Ed.Milam@occ.treas.gov; edon1985@comcast.net; fmoose39@hotmail.com; freesource@cheat.org; greyhawkwv@Verizon.net; jkotcon@wvu.edu; marvaevon@aol.com; nhisbobness@aol.com; pamalasue922@verizon.net; pjgrunt@gmail.com; regina1936@verizon.net; sallywilts@yahoo.com; william.depaulo@gmail.com
A simple but huge advance in energy savings...
Jim Sconyers jim_scon@yahoo.com 304.906.6628
Remember: Mother Nature bats last.
--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Ned Ford Ned.Ford@FUSE.NET wrote:
From: Ned Ford Ned.Ford@FUSE.NET Subject: Please write DOE re: lamp standards To: CONS-SPST-GLOBALWARM-CHAIRS@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 2:22 AM
This is so heavily forwarded I can't tell where it started, but it seems appropriate, and for once we have time to actually write the letters.
- Ned
In June of this year, the Department of Energy (DOE) will make a decision on efficiency standards for light bulbs, a major decision which could save 50 billion kilowatt hours of electricity per year by 2020, and save consumers $70 billion over 30 years. In addition, it could eliminate more than 800 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions, the equivalent annual emissions of 172 coal-fired power plants. Unfortunately, the rule proposed by the previous administration falls far short and leaves significant energy and cost savings on the table.
Your opportunity to reduce global warming emissions and save consumers billions of dollars is NOW. Please write a letter to the DOE asking them to demonstrate that they are serious about climate change. Urge them to adopt the more stringent standards for the fluorescent tube and incandescent reflector lamp rulemaking to gain the maximum benefits for consumers.
President Obama has committed to making the US the most energy efficient country in the world and has appointed a scientist and energy efficiency advocate to lead the Department of Energy. If ever there were a time for consumers to voice their opinions and have them heard, that time is now. Please edit the attached letter to reflect your concerns and send to the Department of Energy. Thank you. ..... Charlie
SAMPLE LETTER:
February xx, 2009
Honorable Steven Chu Secretary U.S. Department of Energy 1000 Independence Ave, SW Washington, DC 20585-0121
Re: Fluorescent Tube and Incandescent Lamps Rulemaking Docket #: EE-2006-STD- 0131
Dear Secretary Chu,
I am writing to urge you to strengthen the lighting efficiency standards proposed by the previous administration.
These new standards, due to be completed in June, will cover fluorescent tube lamps, including the four foot long light bulbs found in millions of office light fixtures, and incandescent reflector lamps, the very common cone-shaped light bulbs used in “recessed can” light fixtures and track lighting. With more than 500 million fluorescent tube lamps and 265 million incandescent reflector lamps sold annually in the U.S., new standards for these products have the potential to deliver more energy and cost savings than any other ever established by the Department of Energy.
Based on the Department of Energy’s analysis, strong standards for these lamps could save about 50 billion kilowatt hours per year by 2020, enough to meet the annual electricity needs of 4.4 million typical American homes. Over thirty years, strong standards could net consumers and businesses nearly $70 billion in savings and fight global warming by eliminating 800 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions. However, the previous administration’s proposal sacrifices as much as half of these savings. Even more savings are lost because the reflector lamp proposal includes a huge loophole which leaves out about 40% of all sales.
During the presidential campaign last year, President Obama promised to work to “make America the most energy efficient country in the world.” As president, he has committed to meet or beat all deadlines for new appliance and lighting standards, citing their importance for saving consumers money, spurring innovation and saving energy. By making these new lighting standards as strong as possible and closing the loophole in the reflector lamp standard, you can take a huge first step to meeting the president’s commitments.
Sincerely,
__,_._,___
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