As a certified garbage crazy this thread is exciting to me and I have forwarded most of this to Clint Hogbin who is also very interested. In Berkeley County we have a project to change the local waste stream to a waste to fuel facility and we are working hard to get our siting plan update approved, I am on that board with Clint. My fear is that with less than normal supply coming in to LCS they will solicit this type of business to make up the difference and more, trouble for our aquifer will result, I'm afraid. I included Clint on this reply and hope we add him to the discussion from now on. JB
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From: Beth Little blittle@citynet.net Sent: Jul 13, 2011 8:14 AM To: 'Frank Young' fyoung@mountain.net, ec@osenergy.org Cc: wyro@appalight.com, DSGJr@aol.com, jbc329@earthlink.net Subject: RE: [EC] Fwd: Tomblin's Executive Order
Frank, I don't doubt that they have not been classified as hazardous, because of all the exemptions gas development has from federal laws. That's the problem. And I seriously doubt that a regular landfill has the capability of testing for some of the nasties they contain, especially the NORMs. Granted, a landfill is better than buried on site, but the landfill in Greenbrier Co has leachate that goes into the Greenbrier River.
-----Original Message----- From: ec-bounces@osenergy.org [mailto:ec-bounces@osenergy.org] On Behalf Of Frank Young Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:20 PM To: ec@osenergy.org Cc: wyro@appalight.com; DSGJr@aol.com; jbc329@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [EC] Fwd: Tomblin's Executive Order be Beth,
By what legal determination are these drilling cuttings "hazardous materials"? Somehow I doubt that they have been legally determined to be hazardous materials.
I think I'd rather see them taken to a legal landfill than disposed of on site by the usual "fold the liner into the hole and bury" method.
Frank
----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Little" blittle@citynet.net To: "'James Kotcon'" jkotcon@wvu.edu; ec@osenergy.org Cc: wyro@appalight.com; DSGJr@aol.com; jbc329@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [EC] Fwd: Tomblin's Executive Order
Furthermore, Leslee and I are trying to track down the facts behind hearing that the Greenbrier landfill is taking cuttings from wells in Greenbrier Co. Leslee said she heard they have a permit. If it's a permit from the DEP, then they are allowing hazardous materials in regular landfills.
-----Original Message----- From: ec-bounces@osenergy.org [mailto:ec-bounces@osenergy.org] On Behalf Of James Kotcon Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:12 PM To: ec@osenergy.org Cc: wyro@appalight.com; DSGJr@aol.com; jbc329@earthlink.net Subject: [EC] Fwd: Tomblin's Executive Order
Thank you Jonathon. Not sure how you got this, but it makes interesting reading.
At first glance this seems like a major step forward, but the cynic in me read it again.
Nothing in here requires permits for or limits air emissions.
Nothing requires a permit for water withdrawals. This order give the
operator the authority to submit a plan, and as long as the plan meets the methods approved by DEP, DEP can not deny or reject a plan submitted by the operator.
- Nothing prohibits on-site burial of pit wastes. It says pits can be
"managed on site in a manner otherwise approved by the Secretary of the WVDEP", and DEP currently approves on-site burial?
So I am wondering if it is time to blast this proposal as too little, too late, and a prescription for continued outrage among citizens and uncertainty for industry. It is a classic example of Tomblin's continuing failure to provide leadership.
JBK
Jonathan Rosenbaum freesource@cheat.org 7/12/2011 4:10 PM >>>
Attached is Tomblin's executive order concerning gas drilling.
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