Right. On Oct 9, 2015 3:22 PM, "William V. DePaulo, Esq." < william.depaulo@gmail.com> wrote:
THEY PAY ALL OF THE COST OF OBTAINING JUICE FROM THE GRID, THE SAME AS ANY OTHER RETAIL CUSTOMER...
William V. DePaulo, Esq. 179 Summers Street, Suite 232 Charleston, WV 25301-2163 Tel 304-342-5588 Fax 304-342-5505 william.depaulo@gmail.com www.passeggiata.com
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Jim Sconyers jimscon@gmail.com wrote:
Now Bill..... Maintenance cost IS result of net meterers, when they draw power from the grid. Net meterers are NOT sending juice the shortest possible distance, when they draw power from the grid. Did you forget that net meterers do get some of their power from the grid? On Oct 9, 2015 2:45 PM, "William V. DePaulo, Esq." < william.depaulo@gmail.com> wrote:
no, it doesn't make sense, because all of the maintenance charges are calculated as part of the base fee spread over all customers. those maintenance fees are not a result of net metering customers, and to the extent that they have any impact on maintenance net metering customers reduce maitenance cost by sending juice the shortest possible distance to the nearest customer. and they already pay it.
William V. DePaulo, Esq. 179 Summers Street, Suite 232 Charleston, WV 25301-2163 Tel 304-342-5588 Fax 304-342-5505 william.depaulo@gmail.com www.passeggiata.com
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Jim Sconyers jimscon@gmail.com wrote:
Doesn't make sense. If they (elec companies) stop paying to maintain the system, John can't get his juice. Only makes sense if all that maintenance cost is rolled into the initial hook-up charge. On Oct 9, 2015 2:34 PM, "William V. DePaulo, Esq." < william.depaulo@gmail.com> wrote:
JIM - BOTH AEP AND FIRST ENERGY ADMITTED, IN MEETINGS WITH PSC'S NET METERING TASK FORCE, THAT -- ASIDE FROM INITIAL HOOKUP WHICH NET METERING CUSTOMERS ALREADY PAY FOR -- THERE WERE NO, ABSOLUTELY NO AS IN Z E R O EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH NET METERING CUSTOMERS BEING ON THE NET.....NONE, NIENTE, NADA, RIEN.......GOOS EGGS....ZILCH......NUTTIN BILL
William V. DePaulo, Esq. 179 Summers Street, Suite 232 Charleston, WV 25301-2163 Tel 304-342-5588 Fax 304-342-5505 william.depaulo@gmail.com www.passeggiata.com
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Jim Sconyers jimscon@gmail.com wrote:
I have to say I'm just slightly sympathetic to the elec companies in this one. Net metering customers DO use the distribution system with the expenses that entails.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Beth Little blittle@citynet.net wrote:
> Ooooh, so I’m subsidized. I’m beginning to feel less guilty for not > going solar. > > At $20 - $25 a month, my bill must be lower than the average. This > is despite the fact that I have the full complement of electric appliances > – freezer, fridge, water heater, washer, drier (just the motor, the fuel is > propane), and various electronics (computer, printer, radios, microwave), > even a 220 water pump in the well. I did get energy efficient appliances > over the last few years, which lowered my bill noticeably. > > The only thing I don’t have is electric heat, although I do use > those oil-filled space heaters in the bathroom and office occasionally. > Oh, and I don’t have a TV or a coffee maker (use a hand grinder and manual > drip). > > Does anyone know how this compares with the charge for hooking to > the grid with net metering? > > > > > > > > *From:* WVHCBOARD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WVHCBOARD@yahoogroups.com] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2015 1:06 PM > *To:* wvec-board@yahoogroups.com; WVHCBOARD@yahoogroups.com; 'WV > Chapter Energy Committee' > *Subject:* [WVHCBOARD] Utilities want higher charges placed on > rooftop solar customers > > > > > > “To be sure, any customer who purchases less electricity than the > average is ‘subsidized,’” Young wrote. “It is the average rate structure, > not net metering, that shifts costs among retail customers.” > > > > http://www.wvgazettemail.com/article/20151005/GZ01/151009735/1102 > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > > Posted by: "frank young" fyoung@mountain.net > ------------------------------ > > *Reply via web post > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/WVHCBOARD/conversations/messages/27179;_ylc=X3oDMTJwcXJrYmM0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwODEwOARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjQxNzcEbXNnSWQDMjcxNzkEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxNDQ0MTUxMTg4?act=reply&messageNum=27179 > * > > • > > Reply to sender > <fyoung@mountain.net?subject=Re%3A%20Utilities%20want%20higher%20charges%20placed%20on%20rooftop%20solar%20customers%20> > > • > > Reply to group > <WVHCBOARD@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Utilities%20want%20higher%20charges%20placed%20on%20rooftop%20solar%20customers%20> > > • > > Start a New Topic > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/WVHCBOARD/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJkaGh0amk3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwODEwOARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjQxNzcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDbnRwYwRzdGltZQMxNDQ0MTUxMTg4 > > • > > Messages in this topic > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/WVHCBOARD/conversations/topics/27179;_ylc=X3oDMTM1YnJxNmFvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwODEwOARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjQxNzcEbXNnSWQDMjcxNzkEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxNDQ0MTUxMTg4BHRwY0lkAzI3MTc5 > (1) > > Working since 1967 for the conservation and wise management of West > Virginia's natural resources > > *Visit Your Group > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/WVHCBOARD/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcm5zcG9tBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwODEwOARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjQxNzcEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxNDQ0MTUxMTg4* > > [image: Image removed by sender. Yahoo! Groups] > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJjZms4ajJxBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEwODEwOARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjQxNzcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDZ2ZwBHN0aW1lAzE0NDQxNTExODg- > > • Privacy > https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html • > Unsubscribe > <WVHCBOARD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> • Terms > of Use https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ > > > > . > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > __,_._,___ > > _______________________________________________ > EC mailing list > EC@osenergy.org > http://osenergy.org/mailman/listinfo/ec >
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