The issue emphatically is NOT what program the money was spent on.....the issue is the fact that it bought silence, at a time when silence was deadly. There can be no rationalization, implicit or otherwise, based on the use made of the money.
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Jim Sconyers jimscon@gmail.com wrote:
Paul's comment below illustrates another aspect of this whole brouhaha - not only did most of our own board not know of the $, but even now we're guessing what it was used for. As I've said before, I deeply respect what Carl Pope did for the Club and the world - but he made one FUBAR on this.
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Paul Wilson pjgrunt@gmail.com wrote:
It all went to the Beyond Coal Campaign, but we on the Campaign Team - at least the 2 volunteers - did not know about it, so it is hard to say what it was/is spent on. best, paul
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Yarnell, Karen < Karen.Grubb@fairmontstate.edu> wrote:
Did any of that money go to the coal campaign, which may have been used for litigation in WV?****
*From:* ec-bounces@osenergy.org [mailto:ec-bounces@osenergy.org] *On Behalf Of *William V. DePaulo, Esq. *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:44 AM *To:* Jim Sconyers *Cc:* Energy Committee *Subject:* Re: [EC] It is impossible to overstate the damage done by Sierra Club's $26 million sell-out to the natural gas industry 3 years ago when this argument could still have been won.****
I AGREE RE IMPACT ON WV CHAPTER....AND FOR THAT MATTER OTHERS.....I REMEMBER CLEARLY THE NEW YORK REP AT THE ANNUAL MEETING THREE YEARS AGO DEMANDING TO KNOW IF SIERRA'S DIRECTORS HAD ACCEPTED MONEY FROM THE NATURAL GAS INDUSTRY, AND RECEIVING NOTHING BUT BLANK STARES IN RESPONSE.....***
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Jim Sconyers jimscon@gmail.com wrote:
The ultimate irony is that the grassroots were (and are) working furiously to tame the runaway gas monster while national took the $ from Chesapeake. I might add that the $ had no effect whatsoever - none - on the West Virginia Chapter, its finances, or our intense Marcellus/Shale Gas Campaign.****
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:52 AM, William V. DePaulo, Esq. < william.depaulo@gmail.com> wrote:****
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Bill Opalka http://www.renewablesbiz.com/author/bill-opalka | Mar 20, 2012 ****
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The shine is off renewable energy and shale gas is the new disruptive technology in power generation.
Harnessing Disruption is the theme of this year’s EnergyBiz Leadership Forum http://www.energybizforum.com/ in Washington, D.C. this week, and that means gas-fired generation from unconventional sources is jumpin’.
Recession, rising energy costs and competing interests that could hamstring the power sector all play a role. And renewables are sometimes seen as a stress point as utilities seek to meet state mandates for their renewable portfolio standards. The dim prospects for any carbon legislation for the foreseeable future are responsible, combined with downward price pressures from the gas glut.
“Low gas pricing is really giving us some breathing room,” said Anthony F. Earley Jr., chairman and CEO of PG&E Corporationhttp://www.pge.com/(NYSE: PG&E).
Renewable energy is competing for attention, and even as its costs decline, natural gas dominates the discussion.
Earley, the new executive at the San Francisco utility, is a different circumstance than many of his colleagues. With California’s 33% renewable portfolio standard by 2020, he said that’s effectively 50% as most hydropower doesn’t count under the standard.
But there was little talk about state renewable portfolio standards this year.
Consider some of the headline speakers of the first three forums to get a sense of how the landscape has shifted. Three years ago Boone Pickens was touting massive wind farms in the Great Plains. In 2010, Representative Ed Markey (D-Mass.) was shepherding cap-and-trade legislation through the U.S. House of Representatives. A year ago, Google caused a stir with plans for a backbone transmission plan for offshore wind, with the Atlantic Wind Connection http://atlanticwindconnection.com/ outlining its $5 billion project.
But now the issue is managing expectations as costs rise and much of the public is still ill-informed, and sensitive to price shocks as gasoline tops $4 a gallon.
“A certain part of the public thinks we can get off Mideast oil by building windmills, but we only get 1% of power from oil,” said Thomas F. Farrell II, president and CEO of Dominion http://www.dom.com/ (NYSE: D).
“The industry has $2 trillion in refurbishment of the grid, as we try to optimize how we handle our investments of what to build over the next two decades,” said Nick Akins, president and CEO of AEPhttp://www.aep.com/(NYSE: AEP).
Even as recent as a year ago, the choice seemed to be renewables or nuclear, with much talk of natural gas as the bridge fuel. Now, gas is the fuel of choice due to its low cost and quick turnaround in building plants.
A slow decline in attention paid by government support may not change, as wind and solar are under threat of collapse if tax credits expire, particularly for wind, at the end of 2012. Regardless of the resource base or the preferred resource of any CEO, the detrimental lack of a national energy policy is something on which all can agree, regardless of the year.****
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