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From: kevin fooce <fmoose39@hotmail.com>
To: Jim Kotcon <jkotcon@wvu.edu>; Frank Young <fyoung@mountain.net>; wvhcboard@yahoogroups.com
Cc: wvec-board@yahoogroups.com; ec@osenergy.org
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 5:05:43 PM
Subject: Re: [EC] [WVHCBOARD] The cost of wind and solar energy

An example of efficiency is a job we are doing now. This is at the Huntington Mall which is undergoing a major remodel. This project will cost in the $12m range, but will actually have a payback of around 7 years if my understanding is correct. Does anything else need to be said about efficiency?

Kevin Fooce
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> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:02:31 -0400
> From: jkotcon@wvu.edu
> To: fmoose39@hotmail.com; fyoung@mountain.net; wvhcboard@yahoogroups.com
> CC: ec@osenergy.org; wvec-board@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [EC] [WVHCBOARD] The cost of wind and solar energy
>
> The author makes some subtle but incorrect/biased assumptions. A
> critical one is that, while "Small" may be "beautiful", the author
> assumes that all renewables will come from industrial scale facilities,
> which requires industrial scale infrastructure, powerlines, etc. But
> dispersed generation such as home-scale solar panes and windmills can
> make a significant contribution without requiring the land use or
> infrastructure he describes.
>
> Of course, the real answer has to be energy efficiency. Instead of
> investing billions into industrial-scale renewables, we should invest
> the majority of those funds in energy efficiency now. The money saved
> could then lead to on-site generation and largely eliminate the need for
> new power plants, gas, nuke or otherwise.
>
> Unfortunately, a massive build-out of industrial scale renewables will
> not avert climate change. The resource being harvested is too diffuse,
> and it can not keep up with the ever-increasing demand for electricity.
> A 10-year mass deployment effort could still only generate a fraction of
> the electricity needed, and by then demand will have swallowed up all
> that generation. The key has to be to create an ever-increasing demand
> for efficiency to REDUCE total electricity demand. The good news is
> that this can be done faster, cheaper, cleaner and safer than any other
> energy alternative.
>
> JBK
>
> >>> kevin fooce <fmoose39@hotmail.com> 6/8/2011 7:06 PM >>>
>