On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Don Spencer <
dspencer36@comcast.net> wrote:
> Chip – Great article on the bike parking!
>
>
>
> I am sorry that I had to leave the meeting before the decisions were
> reached, but I did get to make a motion that we consider groups of 4 lockers
> for a corner in each of the city garages. I mentioned the Pubic Safety
> Garage and would also now like to include the University Ave garage as well
> as a priority and then the Wharf garage as a second priority. The reason for
> my thinking is that I think that we have to give priority to the goal of
> increasing commuter cycling rather than to adding convenience for
> recreational cycling. Both are important, but for us, I believe the commuter
> cycling has to be our prime focus.
>
>
>
> The article that you sent talks about the use of lockers for day long and
> overnight parking, and this it what I think we should also aim for in the
> use of the lockers so that people working at businesses, teaching or
> assisting in classes, working at libraries or offices will have a place they
> can ride to.
>
>
>
> I am not comfortable with the plan for a survey because I question who is
> going to learn about the survey. It might be just a limited group of
> computer users who would find out about the survey and actually follow up on
> the information. I am also very fearful that the committee could be accused
> of spot locating lockers because of individual responses. As a public
> entity, we cannot be “special ordering” lockers for individuals. Our
> planning needs to be systematic – based on systems thinking which locates
> lockers based on principles – such as proximity to destinations, security,
> weather sheltering, critical mass, population density, etc.
>
>
>
> From the discussion, I suggest that we ask for $15,000 for bicycle parking
> lockers to enable the installation of 4 lockers at each of the 3 main
> garages. If the costs of the lockers and freight exceed the $15K amount,
> then I suggest that we ask Tom Arnold to assume responsibility for the
> remaining costs from anticipated revenues. I also recommend that we inform
> WVU (through Hugh) of what we are doing and hope that WVU might do the same
> thing in their two main garages. (Perhaps they will want to do more at the
> Engineering and the Law School areas as well). Perhaps the lockers at all
> sites could use a common blue color so that there could be more ready
> identification of the locker infrastructure by cyclists and the public.
>
>
>
> Anyway, there are just my reactions to the discussion and the article. I
> look forward to our next meeting and any additional data that you come up
> with. Has a date been set for the next Parking Meeting?
>
>
>
> By the way, my input on suggested costs, after looking at the article, would
> be 10 per month, 55 for six months and 100 per year.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Chip Wamsley [mailto:
chip@wamsleycycles.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:36 AM
> To: Don Spencer; chip wamsley;
Hugh.Kierig@mail.wvu.edu; Gunnar Shogren;
> Jonathan Rosenbaum; Alice Vernon; Frank Gmeindl
> Cc: Bicycle Board
> Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Survey
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Frank Gmeindl <
frank.gmeindl@comcast.net>
> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:11:10 -0500
>
> Frank er al,
>
> Here is a site that has some info on locker rates, even though it's from
> 2000. It looks like they are in the $75-85/year, not counting key deposit.
> Some other good info on city bike parking ordinances as well.
>
>
http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/engineering/parking.cfm
>
> Chip
>
>>Parking Committee Members,
>>
>>As we discussed at this morning's meeting, we are going to do a survey to
>> determine who would use bike lockers, how much they would be willing to pay
>> and where we should put them. If you have additional ideas on what we
>> should try to learn with the survey or how we should construct the survey,
>> please reply-all with them.
>>
>>Thanks to all of you that turned out in these challenging conditions!
>>
>>Frank
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