Jonathan,

Do you have a design for a cage?  Can you identify any vendors?  Can you identify vendors for the card swipe or identify specific other cities that use it?  

We had discussed the cage idea with Tom Arnold and even walked the PSC parking garage and discussed where it would go and how it would work.  He was positive.  We promised him a design.  

Frank

On Jan 11, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Jonathan Rosenbaum wrote:

I probably won't be able to make it to the meeting.  But here are my critiques:

Like Chip's Bike Parking Phase II document establishes, it's really important to define what the goals are for long-term parking, and that it is hard to do without taking into consideration factors like location and demand.

We have been talking for a long time about establishing parking in the garages.  My instinct as an actual bicyclist tells me that very few people are going to want to use the enclosed public parking area for overnight parking.  That rules out expensive lockers for that location, but it doesn't rule out the requirement for a higher degree of security that unenclosed racks in a passive security area would not provide for long-term parking during the daytime.  Indoor parking is one thing that is lacking both in Morgantown and at WVU.  I would encourage pursuing a solution that would involve building a cage which would surround racks.  A swipe card would be required to gain entrance.  The swipe cards could be purchased  from the parking authority in their office for 1 year of usage.  Cages enclosing racks provide a double layer of security, the cage prevents cannibalism of bicycle parts.  True, other people can enter the cage, but the bicycles will be locked to racks, and there will be a degree of accountability.    For parking all-day this is a more economic and space saving solution than using lockers.  This is a medium security situation.

Now there are certainly applications that could use lockers.  For instance, in areas where people live in apartments and have no choice then to park their bicycles outside.  In this case, the locker provides protection from the elements along with security.

Here something I pulled out of the Parking Plan that was being working on over 2 years ago:

C.  The distance from the location is another important factor.  In general bicycle parking facilities should be no more than a 30-second walk (120 feet) from the building entrance  or preferably within 50 feet.  However, if feasible, short-term parking should be no more than 30 feet from the arrival location [Cambridge, MA], and long-term parking should be placed no further than 750 feet from the arrival location.    The distance, in particular for long-term parking is governed by the rule established in SECURITY.A.1.  For instance, a bicycle locker located 700 feet away where there is pedestrian traffic would be considered an appropriate facility, but an open rack facility with a sheltered roof 200 feet away in a quiet, unscrutinized location would be considered an unacceptable facility.
I have attached the Parking Plan to this message.  Is has lot's of good information that could help with tomorrows meeting.  But my message here is don't become fixated just on enclosed lockers for long-term parking.  You need to consider many factors.  At least for garages, I hope my cage solution for medium-security long-term parking is carefully considered.

Respectfully .. heh docx works with openoffice

-Jonathan

On 1/11/2011 9:38 PM, Chip Wamsley wrote:
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl@comcast.net>
Date:  Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:17:26 -0500

All,

Here are some points for discussion, along with some locker comparisons--I'll have copies, so no need to print.
Attachments in non docx below.

Chip

I suppose you're talking about the 8:30 am meeting tomorrow, Wednesday at Zen Clay.  

I plan on being there after I shovel my and my neighbor's sidewalks.  

Zen Clay's great coffee should taste especially good then!  They usually have those fresh-out-of-the-oven muffins that early as well.  

Ah, what's the agenda again?

Frank

On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Gunnar Shogren wrote:

Speak up now or forever hold your peace,

On whether or not you think the meeting should go on, or enough of you
won't be able to make it, in which case we'll postpone it.

As of now, it is on, but Alice can't make it.

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