Another alternative might be to make the post and loops removable. That way they could be taken out for the Farmer's Market and then put back in afterward. Attached are the photos that I took. I have a video of Linda pulling her SUV in next to the bikes but it is too large to email. 

J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM

Assistant City Engineer

City of Morgantown

Public Works Department - Engineering Division

389 Spruce Street

Morgantown, WV 26505

Office: 304.284.7398

Fax: 304.284.7409

www.MorgantownWV.gov



From: "Stephen Graber" <sggraber@hsc.wvu.edu>
To: "Thomas Arnold" <tarnold@cityofmorgantown.org>, "Frank Gmeindl" <fgmeindl@gmail.com>
Cc: "Hr Scott" <HRScott@mail.wvu.edu>, "Trevor Lloyd" <tlloyd@cityofmorgantown.org>, "Linda Little" <llittle@cityofmorgantown.org>, "bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com Board" <bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 9:07:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Farmers Market Bicycle Parking

What's wrong with Tom's alternative location?  Sounds like he has legitimate concerns about Bike Board's proposed location.
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Stephen G. Graber
Biochem & Mol Pharmacology
PO Box 9142, HSN-3122
West Virginia University
Morgantown, WV 26506-9142
phone: 304-293-2305

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From: bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com [bikeboard-bounces@bikemorgantown.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Arnold [tarnold@cityofmorgantown.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:06 PM
To: Frank Gmeindl
Cc: Scott, Hr; Linda Little; bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com Board; Trevor Lloyd
Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Farmers Market Bicycle Parking

Frank,

I am writing as a followup to our previous conversation concerning placing the locking rings in the hashed area of the parking area under the pavilion.  As I stated earlier, we are concerned with the location you wish to place the rings.  We are concerned with the rings being so close to vehicles pulling into the spaces. It is our opinion that this location does present a safety issue with bicycles parked that close to an angle pull in parking space.  Our experience tells us that not everyone hits those painted lines every time and  there is possibility for damage to the pole/ring and a bicycle parked in that location.

Also, those parking spaces are vendor booth spaces during the Farmer's Market and would not be available for public access during the market.  That would be true anytime the pavilion would be rented for other activities.  The Market does provide a bike rack each week during there season.  We have contacted the Growers Association for their input as well.

We would encourage you to place the rings under the canopy next to the side entrance of the Public Safety Building as previously was discussed.  No interference with vehicular traffic and is also under cover.  Thank you for taking the time to contact us and hopefully we can easily resolve this issue.

Tom Arnold

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From: "Frank Gmeindl" <fgmeindl@gmail.com>
To: "Damien Davis" <ddavis@cityofmorgantown.org>
Cc: "Gunnar Shogren" <gshogren@gmail.com>, "Trevor Lloyd" <tlloyd@cityofmorgantown.org>, "Tom Arnold" <tarnold@cityofmorgantown.org>, "Linda Little" <llittle@cityofmorgantown.org>, "bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com Board" <bikeboard@bikemorgantown.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:57:08 PM
Subject: Farmers Market Bicycle Parking

Damien,


Could you please reply-all to this message and attach the photos that you took last week that show the bicycle parking locations in the Morgantown Market Place?


This morning, I spoke with Tom Arnold. He said that installing one post-and-loop device in each of the cross-hatched triangles as planned could interfere with vendors that occupy those spaces when the Farmers Market is operating.


Since each post will be only 18" from the curb that separates the rain gardens from the asphalt, perhaps they won't interfere with the vendors on Farmers Market days. Could someone receiving this message show the photos to the appropriate Farmers association representative and get their take on it? Since we didn't have a post-and-loop rack when we took the photos, I've attached a photo of one for your convenience.


Of course, if bicycles are locked to the post-and-loop racks more space would be used. Traditionally, the Farmers association has provided a small portable comb type bicycle rack at the Market entrance on market days. If they could continue doing so, perhaps a solution would be to install the post-and-loop racks as planned; "bag" them Friday night so bicycles will not be parked at them on Saturday morning; and have the Farmers association continue to provide the comb rack when the farmers market is operating.









Frank D. Gmeindl
LCI #1703
491 Wilson Avenue
Morgantown, WV 26501
304-376-0446
Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles





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